From Hull -Hohoho

[Jeff Leahy]

All the victims were murdered where their bodies were found.

Given Nichol's last siting Osbourne st its most probable that she met her killer on the main Road, Whitechapel Rd and took him to a quiet place in Bucks Row..

You cant help wondering if she was hoping the gates would not be locked?

Pirate

[halomanuk]

Alibie,
See this thread i created about the 'possibility' of Nicholls being moved...

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=2615

[albie]

Hmm, getting Nichols into position would be a problem. If he wanted her apt name to be involved in the pattern too. But then he did have the luck of the devil.

Im certain he had no problem getting whores into position, seeing as there were so many of them and he could hang about in the general area of the points of the pattern. Only Eddowes needed to be exact. Maybe he did move the bodies.

[albie]

Some facts,

Annie Deary outlived Robert D'Onston Stephenson, her death certificate was found by David Knott, who also found her in the 1911 Census!

Stephenson was in the London Hospital during all of the murders.

Stephenson wrote a few articles about Black Magic, but wrote an entire book on religion.

Hull is in East Yorkshire, and has not been in Humberside for some years!

As far as I'm aware the death certificate has not been 100% proven to be his wife's. As for a census. It was up to Donston to supply the time of his wife's death. He could have killed her earlier and told people about it later. How was a census taken? A form filled in through the mail? Easily messed with.

Show me that Donston could not have escaped the hospital five times in the months that he was there. Floorplans. Numbers of wardens. Locked doors. Windows. Gate keepers. Heights of walls. Show me that the protocols of security were not easily broken.

It does not seem a tad contradictory that a man would be a black magician then a writer of Christian text? This proves a changable man. It proves a big change in philosophy around the time of the ripper killings. Like a failed spell?

As for the Humberside thing. Are you suggesting I do not reside in Hull? Or that I am so addled in the brain department that I did not notice the change over? Because I assure you it is the latter and not the former.

[Jeff Leahy]

What happened to Rutland? Perhaps thats where the Rain deer were kept?

Pirate

PS re-pattern..any pattern..Jack the Ripper did not choose the murder locations. They were chosen for him by the victims. They are simply random places in a small local', nothing more.

[Mike Covell]

I already thought of that.

D'onston's dead wife was called Anne DEARY too. He would have loved that link to his delusion.

Some facts,

Annie Deary outlived Robert D'Onston Stephenson, her death certificate was found by David Knott, who also found her in the 1911 Census!

Stephenson was in the London Hospital during all of the murders.

Stephenson wrote a few articles about Black Magic, but wrote an entire book on religion.

Hull is in East Yorkshire, and has not been in Humberside for some years!

[halomanuk]

He certainly was in contact with the police but there are too many things against him being the Ripper himself,but yes,he certainly could have figured out a pattern from where he was.
Mike Covell is the best man to speak to about D'onston,he studies him all the time..

[albie]

It has been pointed out that the security was notoriously lax over the weekend at the hospital, when all the kills occured. I also think he was disguising himself. Wouldn't surprise me if he did a Bundy and had his hand in a sling or something, to calm his kills. No evidence for that though.

He probably had a flat in the area, close by, for changing clothes.

Also possible that Donston was not the killer and simply figured out the pattern and gave himself a name to fit.

[The Good Michael]

D'Onston was in hospital during this time though and would have had great trouble getting in and out,doesn't that dent your theory Albie ?

Santa can fly, man!

Mike

[halomanuk]

D'Onston was in hospital during this time though and would have had great trouble getting in and out,doesn't that dent your theory Albie ?

[albie]

He probably used Rudolph's red nose to light the way as he cut up the victims,hence the speed of removing the organs in 'supposed' darkness.

I already thought of that.

D'onston's dead wife was called Anne DEARY too. He would have loved that link to his delusion.

Also, Santa had 8 reindeer. 1888 was a good year then.

[The Good Michael]

Albie,

If he was Santa, why didn't I get a uterus for Christmas?

Mike

[albie]

Joking aside, I am very serious about this theory. Study the pattern of the kills and The House of Santa Claus. Connect it to Tau Tria Delta. It fits. It sounds ridiculous and too good to be true, I know. But I really do think this guy went around thinking he was santa! or entertained it as a delusion for some time. He believe he got to know these women and gave them gifts to lure them in. He killed Nichols first on purpose. Possibly even Kelly last on purpose. He knew both these women. The others were incidental.

I demand the attention of Melvin Harris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Take me now.....................

Already up for trolling.
JTR actually came from West Acklam.Not far from Hull.

[Suzi]

!!

Now why didn't we think of all this.........