George Lusk.... as a suspect

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  • Uncle Jack
    Sergeant
    • Aug 2008
    • 588

    #1

    George Lusk.... as a suspect

    Has anyone had any suspictions about George Lusk as a suspect? He matches the descriptions of the killer, though not in age. And the sending of the From Hell letter, the kidney, and forming the vigilance commitee would be a perfect cover for himself. He was a freemason so it may be a clue to the murders, ie the throwing of the intestines over the shoulders, the GST etc. I know there is nothing more than that but it is worth a thought, I suppose.... maybe....

    Best regards to all

    Adam
    Last edited by Uncle Jack; 09-18-2008, 12:33 PM.
    Best regards,
    Adam


    "They assumed Kelly was the last... they assumed wrong" - Me
  • Tom_Wescott
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 6996

    #2
    A lot of people have had the idea, but it really doesn't pan out. However, he MAY have had a hand in the hoaxing of the From Hell/ Lusk kidney.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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    • Julius
      Cadet
      • Oct 2008
      • 14

      #3
      He's still my favourite suspect. In addition to the above he had local knowledge, a 'crusading zeal' and good relations with the police. If he wasn't the Ripper then I think he had a part to play in the killings.

      We don't know enough about this character.

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      • Sam Flynn
        Casebook Supporter
        • Feb 2008
        • 13322

        #4
        Originally posted by Julius View Post
        We don't know enough about this character.
        We now enough - he was a comparatively prosperous businessman, who lived in a respectable neighbourhood¹ some two miles away from the epicentre of the Ripper murders. In 1888 he was in his mid/late 40s, was widowed, and had a sizeable young family to look after. A less likely Ripper is hard to imagine.

        ¹ The occupants of Alderney Road were classified as "Well-to-do, Middle Class" in Charles Booth's 1889 survey.
        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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        • Monty
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 5413

          #5
          Gareth,

          It would seem that he wasnt that prosperous from 88 onwards, as he filed for bankruptcy some years later.
          Toms suggestion that some think Lusk faked the From Hell is a new one on me. I think such an idea would have been hard to pull off and I cannot see why he would do so.

          Monty
          Monty

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          • Sam Flynn
            Casebook Supporter
            • Feb 2008
            • 13322

            #6
            Originally posted by Monty View Post
            It would seem that he wasnt that prosperous from 88 onwards, as he filed for bankruptcy some years later.
            Indeed, Neil, in 1891. Lusk seems to have been alright in 1888, if his elected status in the Vigilance Committee was anything to go by, as a result of which he'd possibly have hobnobbed with the likes of Charrington. As we know, Lusk made representations to Parliament in the Autumn of '88, so even if his business was creaking at the time, perhaps he didn't let it show.
            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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            • Simon Wood
              Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 5551

              #7
              Hi Monty,

              I think Tom is spot-on.

              Lusk's Vigilance Committee was in need of funds, and sold the kidney/"From Hell" letter story to the Evening News before turning in the "evidence" to the cops.

              East London Observer, 13th October 1888—

              "Unfortunately, however, for the realisation of their hopes, experience had proved that those to whom they appealed were more ready to commend than to co-operate. Excluding one or two subscriptions of considerable amounts they have been compelled to admit that funds have not 'rolled' in."

              The Star, 20th October 1888—

              Easy to Hoax the Police - The Kidney Story.

              "As a motive for the disgusting hoax of the kidney, it is suggested that the person who sent it to its recipient desired to keep up the excitement about the crimes. We are now informed that the information of the receipt of the parcel was sold at a high figure, so that the hoax does not appear so stupid as it seemed at first."

              Regards,

              Simon
              Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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              • Monty
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 5413

                #8
                Absolutely. I think he over reached himself, too many pies not enough fingers. 88 was the begining of some turbulent years for him, starting with the death of his wife.

                As his books and records were investigated, there is an indication things werent right business wise.
                Monty

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                Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                • Robert
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5163

                  #9
                  Hi all

                  I cannot remember the exact details, but wasn't the From Hell letter rather vaguely addressed? Surely if anyone in Lusk's circle, be it Lusk or one of his associates, wanted to spring a hoax, they'd have been eager to make sure that the letter was precisely addressed (and they'd have known Lusk's address).

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                  • Lionel Jospin II
                    Cadet
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 20

                    #10
                    Why lusk ??? and you don't do think that the hero of sophie herfort's novel would been a good suspect as well too ??? (mac naghten ???)

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                    • Simon Wood
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5551

                      #11
                      Hi Robert,

                      The "From Hell" letter was inside the box containing the kidney.

                      I can only assume that the box was properly addressed.

                      Regards,

                      Simon
                      Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                      • Howard Brown
                        *
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 770

                        #12
                        Whether Tom Wescott's rationale for mentioning Lusk in the context of a faked kidney being sent to him involves what Simon Wood mentioned ( to increase funding,etc..) I don't know .

                        What could be a rationale for considering Lusk was "involved' in some way is that one of his friends played a rather sordid joke on him...and nothing more than that.

                        This sort of "sending organs' or displaying them to unwitting parties is not new and there is evidence in America ( in West Philadelphia,to be precise ) where university students left various body parts on porches just to get a rise out of their neighbors 10 years or so prior to the Lusk Letter..

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                        • Simon Wood
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 5551

                          #13
                          Hi Howard,

                          Why are you reluctant to include Lusk in the possible hoax?

                          Regards,

                          Simon
                          Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                          • Robert
                            Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5163

                            #14
                            Hi Simon

                            I have now checked Sugden. The parcel bore no house number. If I wanted to send myself a package, I'd want to make sure that it reached me.

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                            • Simon Wood
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5551

                              #15
                              Hi Robert,

                              But the box did arrive at Lusk's house. Allegedly. One up for the Post Office.

                              Regards,

                              Simon
                              Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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