The records from Stone Asylum for Joseph Fleming - transcription

[lynn cates]

name

Hello Debs. Good work.

I suppose there is still no information concerning why or when he first chose that name?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Wonderful find, really. Thanks again for sharing.

[DVV]

Awesome, Debra.
Poor Joseph must have said first Henrietta was his sister, and never told them her name was Fleming.
Seems consistent with his known delusions of persecution - the use of an alias as an attempt to put the killers off his sent.

Actually he wasn't that mad : the whole country wanted to hang him.

Many thanks.
Dvvvv

[The Good Michael]

Deb,

I see 261 Mile St. Was that feet or inches? That was a joke. I appreciate this stuff you dig up more than you know.

Thanks,

Mike

[Debra A]

Henrietta Evans

While going through some Flemming stuff, I noticed that Henrietta, Flemming's mother, was at first addressed as 'Evans' by the asylum authorities:

[DVV]

Hello David. Well, one way to find out.

Cheers.
LC

Well, I already know he did it so I will sit quietly and let the unconvinced look for more.

[lynn cates]

empiricism

Hello David. Well, one way to find out.

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

The break-in case, Lynn, see the thread "Fleming in 1872".

I wonder where a young criminal of 14 from Bethnal Green would have been sent in 1872.

[lynn cates]

incident

Hello David. Are you referring to the incident when he was a wee lad? I need to look that one up. perhaps the records are still there.

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Hello David. Splendid!

Are they accessible?

Cheers.
LC

Not sure. I've heard of unsuccessful attempts some time ago.

Again, there are his prison (reformatory) records after the 1872 affair. Where are they ? And first, to which reformatory has he been sent ?

[lynn cates]

accessibility

Hello David. Splendid!

Are they accessible?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Hello Lynn, in my opinion there may be.
Actually, there may be a lot in Claybury.

[lynn cates]

records

Hello David. Makes one wonder whether there are any other records about where his height is stated?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Hi Ben

I have serious trouble accepting that he was 6’7”, 11 stone in weight and in “good” health, for example
Ben

A most reasonable trouble, if you ask me.

And I have serious trouble with people that accept so quickly and without reserve that he was 6'7 because it has been written once.

What's the cause of such sudden lacks of discernement ?

Amitiés,
Dvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

[Ben]

Many thanks for these, Lechmere. Most interesting.

Had I known about the Fleming connection when I met the lady who ended up doing my voice-over CD in nearby Tredegar Street, I would certainly have whipped out the camera there and then!

All the best,
Ben