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  • #16
    Odd connections.

    I misread the obit notice on Cook on the Druitt and the Civil Service thread.
    Apparently Cook's sister-in-law was H.B.Irving's wife, and was an actress.

    That and those comments about Tichborne are curious to me.

    First, the Tichborne phenomena swept up the British population as no other
    criminal proceedings did in the 19th Century. It was a national issue as to whether the Claimant was Roger Tichborne, legitimate baronet, or not. Today it strikes us as crazy, but there is much in that case that is "gleefully" overlooked today because most commentators are more impressed at how the Claimant was unmasked, or if he was unmasked or not (there are still people who think Thomas Castro was not Arthur Orton but was either Roger Tichborne or an illegitimate brother).

    The fact was the Tichborne case gathered around it remnants (in the British population) of the anti-Catholic fanaticism of earlier periods. The Tichbornes were a Catholic family - among the richest Catholic aristocracy in England.
    Castro did not openly profess Protestantism (he was too smart for that) but
    he allowed for dislike of Catholics to advance his cause: that he was being
    cheated of his birthright by Catholics. The real example of a Tichborne extremist type was the barrister, Dr. Keneally (an Irish Protestant) who represented the Claimant at his second trial for perjury. Keneally felt he was justified in tearing everyone from Lord Chief Justice Cockburn on down in defense of the Claimant (and got disbarred as a result).

    Cook and Druitt obviously got swept up to some extent in the Claimant's case (the years of it, by the way, were from 1854 - when Roger disappeared in the apparent sinking of the ship Bella off South America - to 1868 - when Roger reappeared in Paris supposedly, in the person of Castro - to the trials of 1871 - 1875). With it being front page news in England this not to be
    surprising. But that Cook actually donated money to the Claimant is curious. He must have been very deeply impressed [you have to be really read up on the case to understand why: Roger Tichborne was a slender, quiet, gentleman who may have drunk far too much to be good for him - Thomas Castro/Arthur Orton (?) was a man who weighed 300 pounds and something of a cultural ignoramus].

    The second thing is a minor point, but if Druitt was the Ripper (which I actually doubt) it might have some bearing. There were other people who supported Orton's claims. One was Henry Wainwright, the brush manufacturer from Whitechapel, who would eventually murder his mistress
    Harriet Lane and go to the gallows for it in a spectacular homicide case of 1876. Lane's body was dismembered by Wainwright in that case, and the events occured in Whitechapel. If Druitt and Cook met Wainwright during their involvement with the Claimant, Druitt might have had sinister reasons about thinking of Whitechapel. But again, I tend to doubt Monty's involvement there.

    Jeff

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    • #17
      Hi Jeff,a man named Wainwright was also part of the original Toynbee Hall 1885 Ctte.It could be someone completely different though.Unfortunately I dont have an initial.
      Norma

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      • #18
        The section below from the biography of Cook gives details of the Civil Service exam he sat at the same time as Druitt:

        He had also a narrow escape of the Civil Service, as he passed tenth out of twelve in his examination and was, accordingly, offered a place. The details of this result, in view of Cook's future distinctions, are not without interest. It should be premised that the examiners for some reason deducted from the totals 125 marks before any marks were given to a candidate for any subject. Edward Tyas Cook, then, obtained 403 and 460 marks respectively for Greek and Latin out of nominal totals of 750. These were respectable figures, and it is not surprising to find Cook at the head of the twelve for composition and precis, truly journalistic subjects, with 314 marks out of 500. Only two candidates seem to have taken German - Sidney James Webb, who received 197 marks, and Cook, whose mark is a round 0. It is quite as surprising to find Cook receiving only 32 marks out of 500 in literature, which placed him the penultimate of the twelve, and 87 out of 500 for history, in which subject, however, he never seems to have specialised. Probably Cook was only half-hearted in this attempt. He certainly refused the place offered
        to him, as it did not lead to a Treasury appointment.
        Otherwise he might have been permanently excluded from that political and party life in which he was to find for thirty years his congenial field of service and distinction

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