Druitt at Oxford

[mpriestnall]

I only sees Robert, no Richard.

Yes your right, my mistake.

Thank you.

[mpriestnall]

I HAVEN'T CONFIRMED ANY OF THIS but possible Druitt link:

1. Referring back Chris Scott's post nbr 16, there is "Arthur R Prideaud aged 24 born city of London - Solicitor" with
Richard F. Ball.

2. I wonder if this is Arthur Robert Prideaux? as in https://www.timbershack.co.uk/index....arlotte-Elliot

He is one of four generations of well-known solicitors linked to Goldsmith's Hall (lots on the web about them).

3. Believe Walter Sherbourne Prideaux is the brother of Arthur Robert Prideaux above

4. LMA document https://search.lma.gov.uk/LMA_DOC/E_BHF.PDF

which have multi references to Walter Sherbourne Prideaux and Frank Albert Bosanquet, which I believe was in the same chambers with Jelf and MJD.

Martyn

[mpriestnall]

I think his false trail is a false trail.

The William Druitt connected to Richard Ball Rutter was almost certainly not William Harvey Druitt, but the other William Druitt, a clergyman and cousin of some sort, who (like Rutter) lived in Bristol towards the end of his life.

Thanks for that.

[mpriestnall]

https://www.casebook.org/press_repor.../18871130.html

Times (London)
30 November 1887

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MR. JUSTICE CHARLES.-Yesterday evening the members of the Western Circuit entertained Mr. Justice Charles at dinner at the Hotel Metropole in order to celebrate his recent elevation to the Bench. The chair was occupied by Mr. Prideaux, Q.C., the leader of the circuit, and a considerable number of both the past and present members of the circuit assembled on the occasion to do honour to the learned Judge. Among those present were the Lord Chief Justice of England (Lord Coleridge), Lord Justice Bowen, Lord Justice Lopes, Sir Montague Smith, Sir J. Parker Deane, Q.C., Sir W. Phillimore, Q.C., Mr. Bompas, Q.C., Mr. Bayford, Q.C., Mr. Bucknill, Q.C., Sir Sherston Baker, Mr. Wyndham Slade (metropolitan police magistrate), Mr. J.L. Johnston, Mr. J. Coates, Mr. J.B. Rowley, Mr. Deverell, Mr. C. Wilde, and Messrs. J.V. Austin, G.R. Askwith, E.U. Bullen, Mr. H. Box, W.M. Barnes, E.O.P. Bouverie, A.V. Blumberg, E.F. Bigg, H. Clark, T. Cooke, W.R. Crofton, Hon. Bernard Coleridge, J.C. Chaplin, R.W. Clifton, W.F. Craies, M.J. Druitt, H.E. Duke, Folkard, Foulkes, A. Foote, C.T. Giles, G. Greenwood, W.C. Graham, T.W. Gibson, Hadow, R.D. Hancock, J.A.G. Hamilton, W.M. Hodgkinson, A.A. Hudson, J.H. Helpman, R.S. Herries, Jepson, T.R. Jacomb, R. Kinglake, A.B. Kempe (acting wine treasurer to the circuit), J.P. Kennedy, C.M. Kennedy, S. Kearns, Leigh, B.F. Lock, R.K. Lopes, A.H. Lush, S.H. Leonard, S.W. Lambert, H.E. Lawes, Mortimer, M'Kellar, Mackey, Charles Matthews, J.S. M'Cullagh, A.E. Nelson, Blake Odgers, A.R. Poole, C.A. Prideaux...

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I'm interested to know about these Prideauxs. Their identities and if they related to the aforementioned Prideauxs...

[mpriestnall]

Is the QC mentioned above Charles Greville Prideaux???

https://ore.exeter.ac.uk/repository/...=1&isAllowed=y

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https://forum.casebook.org/forum/rip...amp-1897/page2

Post by "Chris".

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Charles Augustin Prideaux was born in 1855 in Marylebone, the son (later described as the only child) of Charles Grevile (or Greville) Prideaux and his wife Catharine Ann (nee Ruddock). Charles Prideaux senior had been born in Bristol and would in 1879 be appointed Recorder of Bristol and judge of the Bristol Tolzey and Pie Poudre Courts (Foster, p. 377).
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Seems to be the C.A. Prideaux quoted in the Times 30-11-1887 report.

Only remains now try to link up Arthur Richard Prideaux and Walter Sherbourne Prideaux...

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I would like to contact the LMA by email preferably to arrange to view:

https://search.lma.gov.uk/scripts/mwimain.dll/144/LMA_OPAC/web_detail/REFD+CLC~2FB~2F182?SESSIONSEARCH

Can any help me and provide the correct email address?

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I would like to contact the LMA by email preferably to arrange to view:

https://search.lma.gov.uk/scripts/mwimain.dll/144/LMA_OPAC/web_detail/REFD+CLC~2FB~2F182?SESSIONSEARCH

Can any help me and provide the correct email address?

Some one kindly sent me a useful contact link.

I only use FB etc if I have too!

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I found the following book on archive.org:

"The Essex Foxhounds with Notes Upon Hunting in Essex

By Richard Francis Ball & Tresham Gilbey"

I think this is almost certainly the same R.F.B. Matching Essex locations with the quoted censuses, Capel Cure and Palmerston mentions. Also a mentions Edward A. Ball, who bought 5 copies of the book. An Edward A Ball is listed
in one of the censuses. E.A.B is listed at living the curiously named "Egg Hall, Epping"!

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"William Garth aged 26 born Bloomsbury - Barrister in Actual Practice" mentioned earlier in the 1881 census:

Maybe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Garth_(barrister) ??? The birth years 1854/1855 correlate closely enough.

Son of Richard Garth born Lowndes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Garth

The latter is associated with Morden. MJD played for Morden Cricket Club.

[mpriestnall]

I think his false trail is a false trail.

The William Druitt connected to Richard Ball Rutter was almost certainly not William Harvey Druitt, but the other William Druitt, a clergyman and cousin of some sort, who (like Rutter) lived in Bristol towards the end of his life.

1. Seems the Prideaux, Ball family (eg Richard Francis Ball) are connected by marriage.

2. Richard Ball Rutter is connected to the Ball family listed in 1. above.

See this link for points 1 + 2.

http://www.pennyghael.org.uk/Reynolds.pdf

Prideaux Q.C. of the Western Circuit is likely to be related to the Prideaux's listed with Richard Francis Ball.

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I think JRuffles head's up on "Mr Ball" was a SIGNIFICANT lead that was overlooked (AFAIK) IMHO.

I'm going to continue my research offline.

Thank you Mr Ruffles!

Martyn

[mpriestnall]

I'm off to the LMA soon to see the Prideaux archive. Despite what I said about continuing my research offline, I will post here any Ball/Druitt/Prideaux finds.

[mpriestnall]

From Alumni Oxonienses:

Sim, Archibald Coysgarne, 3s. Alexander, of Wandsworth, Surrey, gent. New Coll., matric. 16 Oct., 1874, aged 19; B.A. 1877, bar.-at-law, Inner Temple, 1879. See Foster's Men at the Bar

From https://www.espncricinfo.com/wisdena...ry/228163.html

SIM, MR. ARCHIBALD COYSGARNE, born October 14, 1855; died in London July 11, aged 62. Was in the Marlborough XI in 1873 and 1874, making 34 and 10, 0 and 9 v. Rugby. At Oxford he scored 24 in the Freshmen's match in 1875, and 12 and 8 not out in 1876, and 2 and 0 not out in 1877 for the Seniors. Obtained his Rugby Blue in 1876.

Another person connected to the Ball family and linked to the Prideauxs as he is listed as a barrister at Goldsmith's Buildings.

Sounds like someone MJD would know?