Info from Chichester

[Robert]

Andy, been thinking about this and I think we'd still need a missing letter from somewhere carrying news of the fire, and that Ann is safe etc etc.

It's certainly a very small world.

[aspallek]

Well, yes. The correspondence in the archive at Chichester is not a complete record I'm sure. There is also the possibility of oral communication. To be sure, there is no record of Ann being at Brook House in 1887 that I know of. So it is a rather weak speculation on my part with no evidence to support it. Sort of a "what-if?"

[Johnr]

Dr Lionel Druitt's departure for Australia

Hello Andy and All,
In answer to your question Andy, Dr Lionel Druitt departed England on the "Lusitania"( ( oo-er) -Berth No.59-Saloon Passsenger as per the shipping list in the Mitchell Library Sydney.JOHN RUFFELS.

[aspallek]

Out of curiosity, John, what was the date of his departure?

[Robert]

Andy, John

Presumably around May :

'List of things in the different cases taken out by Lionel Druitt to Cooma DRUITT MSS/402 May 1886


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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=182-druitt&cid=-1&Gsm=2008-06-18#-1

[Robert]

Has anyone tracked Lionel's descendants? There are several Druitts doing their family tree.

[aspallek]

Andy, John

Presumably around May :

'List of things in the different cases taken out by Lionel Druitt to Cooma DRUITT MSS/402 May 1886


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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A...=2008-06-18#-1

Indeed that makes this article pretty interesting. Though it would rather a wild happenstance.

Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper (London, England), Sunday, January 24, 1886

[Johnr]

Hello Andy, Robert and All,
Sorry, Andy I forgot to put the date.(Too busy "oo-er-ing the Lusitania ).
Lionel left London on 13th May 1886 (Again, I misled you, details of his departure are from his actual ticket -still in possession of the Australian branch of his family. I am not currently in touch, all my research was through a third party in the 1970's).
Lionel arrived in Sydney on 1st July 1886, when his uncle Archdeacon Thomas Druitt went up to Sydney to collect him and bring him back to his country rectory at Cooma.(It is these details which are from the Shipping Lists in the Mitchell Library, Sydney; and local newspaper).
Robert, thanks for reminding me of the Lionel Druitt details in the West Sussex Druitt Papers.
Browsing through them, there appears to be two(?) letters from M.J.Druitt in the Druitt papers. Both from Christchurch. Dates a bit wobbly.
Someone asked if we know much of Lionel's descendants.These were thoroughly researched by Farson, David Andersen, Irving Rosenwater, and myself (separately) back in the 'seventies.
JOHN RUFFELS.

[aspallek]

John,

Those letters are from Matilda Jane Druitt. The only letter from Montague is the "Uncle Robert" letter.

Andy

[Johnr]

Thanks Andy,
As you will understand, I am both dissappointed and pleased. Pleased that you cleared the initials coincidence up.
Keep searching.Pretend you are both Barnaby and Burgo. JOHN RUFFELS.

[aspallek]

While we are speaking of these locations it is interesting that Henry Winslade, the waterman who discovered Druitt's body, lived at 19 Bennett St, which is off Devnshire Rd. right in between Thornycroft's Wharf and Tuke's Assylum.

[Johnr]

What years did Sir Robt. Anderson & family reside Linden Gardens?

According to Stewart ( P.E.),

Philip Sugden in his book on JTR says at page 422, Sir Robert Anderson resided at 39 Linden Gardens,( Hyde Park)(.

Was this near the Town Druitts at Strathmore Gardens? That is the Dr Robert Druitts?

JOHN RUFFELS.

[Roy Corduroy]

Brook House

If you remember, Ann Druitt was presumably committed to "Brook Asylum" (apparently actually "Brook House") in Upper Clapton in the summer of 1888. On May 27, 1887, there was a serious fire at Brook House which caused great damage. Let's suppose that Ann Druitt may have been spending time at Brook House already in 1887. The fire could be the reason she was "to go to Linden Gardens" as Gertrude Druitt's letter of June 13, 1887 stated. Just a thought.

Aside -- Wynne Baxter presided at the inquest into the fire's sole fatality.

Here is the news clipping about that.



Yes, Montague's mother Anne Druitt was a patient at Brook House private asylum from July 5, 1888 to Jan 5, 1889 as shown in Ripper Legacy by Skinner & Howells.

And I find an interesting name pop up. Dr. Josiah A. Adams was the medical superintendant, but the "chariman of the board" and owner of Brook House was Dr. Henry Monro. In fact, the Monro family had operated the asylum since 1781, buying the property outright in 1820. Henry was the fifth in a line of physicians who specialized in psychiatry. This Monro family left Scotland for England some two hundred years before, in 1691.

So I wondered, could Dr. Monro be related to James Monro of the Met Police, who was born and raised in Edinburgh? It's probably just a coinicidence.

Roy

[Roma]

I don't know but I read something about this Monro, I'm going to try to find the book in which I think he's mentioned!

[Mayerling]

Here is the news clipping about that.

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Yes, Montague's mother Anne Druitt was a patient at Brook House private asylum from July 5, 1888 to Jan 5, 1889 as shown in Ripper Legacy by Skinner & Howells.

And I find an interesting name pop up. Dr. Josiah A. Adams was the medical superintendant, but the "chariman of the board" and owner of Brook House was Dr. Henry Monro. In fact, the Monro family had operated the asylum since 1781, buying the property outright in 1820. Henry was the fifth in a line of physicians who specialized in psychiatry. This Monro family left Scotland for England some two hundred years before, in 1691.

So I wondered, could Dr. Monro be related to James Monro of the Met Police, who was born and raised in Edinburgh? It's probably just a coinicidence.

Roy

I seem to recall that in the early 19th Century a Dr. Alexander Monro was a leading medical teacher in Edinburgh and a rival of Dr. Robert Knox. Indeed, Burke and Hare were planning to drop the first of their "fresh specimens" at Dr. Monro's but did not know the way, asked a medical student, who "helpfully" directed them to Knox!!

Jeff