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    It is my belief that Bury is the best suspect we have for a number of reasons. Most notably that Bury murdered his wife in a similar fashion to the C5, Bury matches the FBI psychological profile rather well and that Bury left London shortly after Mary Kelly's murder. But is Bury the best suspect we have? I'd be interested to hear others thoughts.

  • #2
    Good thread. Can Bury be found at a murder scene near a freshly murdered victim who is still bleeding and breathing?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
      Good thread. Can Bury be found at a murder scene near a freshly murdered victim who is still bleeding and breathing?
      Hi Geddy2112

      No but neither can any other suspect. Despite the lies suggesting a certain suspect was though.

      Cheers John

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      • #4
        Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
        It is my belief that Bury is the best suspect we have for a number of reasons. Most notably that Bury murdered his wife in a similar fashion to the C5, Bury matches the FBI psychological profile rather well and that Bury left London shortly after Mary Kelly's murder. But is Bury the best suspect we have? I'd be interested to hear others thoughts.
        Bury's wife died from strangulation with a rope, similar to Rose Mylett who was killed closer to Bury's residence than those in Whitechapel who died from a cut throat. Perhaps he left after the Farmer incident and Rose Mylett's murder. Possibly a serial killer, but not the Ripper.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

          Bury's wife died from strangulation with a rope, similar to Rose Mylett who was killed closer to Bury's residence than those in Whitechapel who died from a cut throat. Perhaps he left after the Farmer incident and Rose Mylett's murder. Possibly a serial killer, but not the Ripper.
          Are you sure the Whitechapel Murderer didn't kill his victims by strangulation? Cutting there throats to make sure they were dead? Maybe Bury didn't need to cut his wife's throat. There is also evidence a ligature was used in a number of the C5. Also if Bury isn't the best suspect we have then who is?

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          • #6
            I think Bury is in the top-5 of the named suspects. I personally think the Ripper was an as yet unknown man, but of the known suspects, Bury rates pretty high.

            Is he the very best suspect? Hmm, I don’t think so, his behavior after the murder is a big detractor.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kattrup View Post
              I think Bury is in the top-5 of the named suspects. I personally think the Ripper was an as yet unknown man, but of the known suspects, Bury rates pretty high.

              Is he the very best suspect? Hmm, I don’t think so, his behavior after the murder is a big detractor.
              Hi Kattrup

              If Bury isn't the best suspect in your opinion who is and why? As for Bury's behaviour after his wife's murder would a one time wife murderer really perform post mortem mutilation, stuff the body in a box and play cards on the box with friends for a number of days?

              Cheers John

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              • #8
                Bury surely has to be in the top 5 of anyone's list.

                The only negative for me is that McKenzie was murdered after he was hanged.

                The Pinchin Street torso for me is also a point of contention.

                If Mckenzie wasn't a Ripper victim, then Bury jumps into the top 3 suspects.

                How could he not?


                The biggest positive for him having been the killer wasn't necessarily his behavior; it was his handwriting.

                Bern has virtually proved the undeniable similarities between Bury and some of the alleged Ripper letters.


                Bury's behaviour during life is indicative of a psychopath.

                But being a psychopath doesn't automatically make you a serial killer.

                "Great minds, don't think alike"

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                  Hi Kattrup

                  If Bury isn't the best suspect in your opinion who is and why? As for Bury's behaviour after his wife's murder would a one time wife murderer really perform post mortem mutilation, stuff the body in a box and play cards on the box with friends for a number of days?

                  Cheers John
                  Well, since I don’t actually think any of the named suspects did it, I’m not the best judge.
                  But I’d rate Kosminski, Druitt and Grainger higher, I guess.

                  Mainly because they also had police attention at the time.

                  And yes, first time murderers do behave like that - look at John Gill’s murder for example. Bury’s behavior is consistent with a first-time murderer trying to ignore/forget/hide what happened.

                  His behavior is inconsistent with that of a mad, experienced killer.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kattrup View Post
                    Well, since I don’t actually think any of the named suspects did it, I’m not the best judge.
                    But I’d rate Kosminski, Druitt and Grainger higher, I guess.

                    Mainly because they also had police attention at the time.

                    And yes, first time murderers do behave like that - look at John Gill’s murder for example. Bury’s behavior is consistent with a first-time murderer trying to ignore/forget/hide what happened.

                    His behavior is inconsistent with that of a mad, experienced killer.
                    How do you know Jack was mad? I still think Bury was the Ripper. Also I'm not totally sure what Kosminski, Druitt and Granger have going for them other than being suspected by the Police who weren't experienced with Serial Killers at the time.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post
                      Bury surely has to be in the top 5 of anyone's list.

                      The only negative for me is that McKenzie was murdered after he was hanged.

                      The Pinchin Street torso for me is also a point of contention.

                      If Mckenzie wasn't a Ripper victim, then Bury jumps into the top 3 suspects.

                      How could he not?


                      The biggest positive for him having been the killer wasn't necessarily his behavior; it was his handwriting.

                      Bern has virtually proved the undeniable similarities between Bury and some of the alleged Ripper letters.


                      Bury's behaviour during life is indicative of a psychopath.

                      But being a psychopath doesn't automatically make you a serial killer.
                      It's unlikely Mckenzie was a Ripper victim. Also the Torso Killer and probable perpetrator of the Pinchin Street Torso is even less likely to have been Jack.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

                        Bury's wife died from strangulation with a rope, similar to Rose Mylett who was killed closer to Bury's residence than those in Whitechapel who died from a cut throat. Perhaps he left after the Farmer incident and Rose Mylett's murder. Possibly a serial killer, but not the Ripper.
                        If Bury did murder Rose Mylett then he is even more likely to have been the Ripper. It amazes me when people propose that there were loads of serial killers running about a small area of London at the time. This is highly unlikely.

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                        • #13
                          imho bury is the best suspect for the ripper. he did post mortem mutilation on his wife similar to the ripper victims, fits the profile of a local avg gentile joe, was a known violent man towards women, was in the area at the time and was a person of interest to contemp police. he left london after the c5 which could explain the cessation of the murders.

                          ive got hutch, chapman, kelly koz and druitt in that order after bury.
                          "Is all that we see or seem
                          but a dream within a dream?"

                          -Edgar Allan Poe


                          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                          -Frederick G. Abberline

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