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Would Eagle have returned to the club at the speed of an Olympic marathon Walker? Or is it unlikely that he casually strolled back? I say that it’s entirely possible and entirely unexceptional. Therefore this introduces the very real possibility that the steps that Mrs Mortimer heard might have been Mortis Eagle who got back to the club not long after PC Smith had passed. If that was the case then we have her on her doorstep at approximately 12.40.
She sees Goldstein pass but either she doesn’t notice Brown passing (too dark, looking the other way..whatever) or she just doesn’t bother mentioning seeing a man that never entered Berner Street and so couldn’t be connected to the crime. Around 12.55 she goes indoors.
BS man and Schwartz pass down Berner Street a mere 10 minutes after their assumed time. The street is entirely deserted when the incident occurs. Fanny goes back onto her doorstep just after 1.00.
This gives more justification for her undoubtedly honestly made claim to have been on her doorstep for most of the time between 12.30 and 1.00. The reality though was perhaps 15, 16 or 17 minutes out of 30. It probably seemed longer to her (remember how poor we are at estimating periods of time)
This gives a more accurate period, according to Fanny, of how long she was indoors for before she came back out.
It explains why Fanny didn’t see Morris Eagle but she did see Leon Goldstein.
It backs up the suggestion that the killer might have been interrupted.
Both PC Smith and PC Lamb fit in the scenario perfectly.
We have an entirely plausible suggestion as to why Fanny didn’t see Brown.
In the case of Berner Street none of us can give a timeline which can be proven authentic because it’s impossible to do so. All that we know for a fact is that there are several possible timelines which all easily fit the named events so any claims that events in Berner Street can’t be explained and so someone must have lied carries absolutely no weight. We have zero reason for suspecting subterfuge. We get theories involving subterfuge because some rebel against a prosaic, common sense, non-sensational explanation. It’s not exciting enough. So we get plots. There weee no plots. We have no evidence that anyone lied but this whole avalanche of fantasy has arisen and persisted because some people just can’t get their head around the suggestion the things can happen which aren’t seen or heard. This short, not very loud incident is treated as if it was a helicopter landing. The actual ‘noise’ would have taken much less than 30 seconds, probably 10 or 15 seconds. No one saw it because no one else was on the street and no one heard it because it wasn’t very loud and there were other sounds for ears to deal with. So the basis for suspicion is an entirely baseless one. The majority of Berner Street discussion was born of an absolute fallacy.
So what do we have left that’s ’suspicious?” The slight difference in The Star’s version of events but it’s easy to weave fantasies without considering the boring realities beforehand. Interpreter’s of unknown quality, newspaper reporters willing to exaggerate to sell papers, maybe Schwartz might have told a lie. Maybe he was asked why he didn’t help so he ‘added’ the knife.
One thing is for certain though…if he was lying to frame the BS man figure as the murderer he rather stupidly put the knife in the wrong man’s hands.
Why can’t we ditch the nonsense? How long can it go for?
She sees Goldstein pass but either she doesn’t notice Brown passing (too dark, looking the other way..whatever) or she just doesn’t bother mentioning seeing a man that never entered Berner Street and so couldn’t be connected to the crime. Around 12.55 she goes indoors.
BS man and Schwartz pass down Berner Street a mere 10 minutes after their assumed time. The street is entirely deserted when the incident occurs. Fanny goes back onto her doorstep just after 1.00.
This gives more justification for her undoubtedly honestly made claim to have been on her doorstep for most of the time between 12.30 and 1.00. The reality though was perhaps 15, 16 or 17 minutes out of 30. It probably seemed longer to her (remember how poor we are at estimating periods of time)
This gives a more accurate period, according to Fanny, of how long she was indoors for before she came back out.
It explains why Fanny didn’t see Morris Eagle but she did see Leon Goldstein.
It backs up the suggestion that the killer might have been interrupted.
Both PC Smith and PC Lamb fit in the scenario perfectly.
We have an entirely plausible suggestion as to why Fanny didn’t see Brown.
In the case of Berner Street none of us can give a timeline which can be proven authentic because it’s impossible to do so. All that we know for a fact is that there are several possible timelines which all easily fit the named events so any claims that events in Berner Street can’t be explained and so someone must have lied carries absolutely no weight. We have zero reason for suspecting subterfuge. We get theories involving subterfuge because some rebel against a prosaic, common sense, non-sensational explanation. It’s not exciting enough. So we get plots. There weee no plots. We have no evidence that anyone lied but this whole avalanche of fantasy has arisen and persisted because some people just can’t get their head around the suggestion the things can happen which aren’t seen or heard. This short, not very loud incident is treated as if it was a helicopter landing. The actual ‘noise’ would have taken much less than 30 seconds, probably 10 or 15 seconds. No one saw it because no one else was on the street and no one heard it because it wasn’t very loud and there were other sounds for ears to deal with. So the basis for suspicion is an entirely baseless one. The majority of Berner Street discussion was born of an absolute fallacy.
So what do we have left that’s ’suspicious?” The slight difference in The Star’s version of events but it’s easy to weave fantasies without considering the boring realities beforehand. Interpreter’s of unknown quality, newspaper reporters willing to exaggerate to sell papers, maybe Schwartz might have told a lie. Maybe he was asked why he didn’t help so he ‘added’ the knife.
One thing is for certain though…if he was lying to frame the BS man figure as the murderer he rather stupidly put the knife in the wrong man’s hands.
Why can’t we ditch the nonsense? How long can it go for?
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