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  • caz
    Premium Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 10739

    #466
    Originally posted by c.d. View Post
    Agreed Darryl.

    Except that we can't eliminate the possibility that he might simply have been willing to risk it or just didn't didn't give a damn. He wanted Stride dead for whatever reason.

    Look at the recent jewel heist at the Louvre. Who in their right mind would have attempted that? Some people have major league cojones.

    c.d.
    Hi c.d.,

    I would go for the 'major league cojones' argument, if this is the same man who had the major league cojones to do what was done to Eddowes a little later, before swanning off with half her apron and disappearing into the night.

    I'm always surprised at some of the efforts made to finger some unknown male with a sharp knife and an unknown reason for slicing Stride's throat with it, when we already had one right under our noses in Mitre Square, not far enough distance from Berner Street to cause us any difficulty whatsoever in making a likely link between two cases of a very rare crime: the violent murder of a helpless, penniless woman outdoors on her own.

    Love,

    Caz
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    • The Rookie Detective
      Superintendent
      • Apr 2019
      • 2208

      #467
      It's also important to note that Stride herself was no push over.

      Any idea that she was a woman who was weak and unable to defend herself, is perhaps misguided.

      As a woman who likely had to deal with men who were often aggressive, dominating, and violent, she would have had to have built up a level of guile and resilience to be able to deal with such behaviour, and survive.

      That in itself is perhaps a tantalising clue as to the Ripper's identity...
      The last person who she would have expected to suddenly cut her throat.

      I believe she suffered from Cadaveric Spasm at the precise moment her brain realised her throat was cut and she was about to die. The combination of shock and fear then caused her hand muscles to spasm and lock into place, and inadvertently secure the Cachous that she had in her hand at the moment the killer chose to strike.

      Cachous were marketed primarily toward women, who sought to freshen their breath after smoking.
      This would have no doubt extended to a woman who went on a date.

      When we combine what she was wearing, the sighting of her and a male companion in Settles St circa 11pm, and her holding Cachous (that were almost certainly HERS) all help to support the idea that she was in the company of her killer for a period of time up to her death; ergo, not soliciting.
      Prostitution was her means of an income, and not a reflection of who she was as a person. In other words, just because she was a prostitute, doesn't mean she was soliciting 24/7 365 days a year.

      Her killer likely came across as endearing, charming and attentive to her needs as a woman.
      If he didn't, then it would have made her suspicious.

      At the time, women who were soliciting to earn money, were fully aware of the fact there was a butchering killer out there on the streets.
      On that basis, the killer would have adapted accordingly.

      The idea that a drunken man who threw her to the ground would then be brassen enough to cut her throat, just doesn't fit with the way the killer operated. He wasn't some openly maniacal lunatic, or some random drunk.

      Stride was tough enough to have dealt with drunks.

      But she wouldn't have expected that soft speaking man with a friendly countenance and dreamy eyes whispering words of affection into her ear, to suddenly restrict her throat and then violently attempt to sever her head in just one deep cut.

      Stride never saw him coming.

      And for that reason, Bs man wasn't her killer.

      And he certainly wasn't the Ripper.

      I don't believe the Ripper necessarily chose his victims because they were weak, I think he chose them because they didn't suspect him until it was too late.

      That was part of his sick game

      Look at the case of Emily Smith who was attacked by the railway arch near Shadwell Station on 5th November 1892.
      For me, it was the Ripper and he simply botched it up when Emily fought back and managed to avoid his knife attack.

      All the signs of a Ripper attack.
      Last edited by The Rookie Detective; Today, 02:26 PM.
      "Great minds, don't think alike"

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      • caz
        Premium Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 10739

        #468
        Hi Rookie,

        Nice post. I do however think it's possible that the ripper was volatile enough to be charming all the while the woman he was with appeared to be charming in return - Eddowes to take the obvious example - but capable of losing his temper very quickly and very violently if things didn't go to plan and a woman started playing up.

        I agree that Stride was completely taken by surprise, but whether that was because her killer was someone other than BS man, who acted kindly towards her, or just BS man going through a sudden, unexpected and fatal mood swing, I'm not sure we could ever know.

        Love,

        Caz
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