Suspect League table

[Scott Nelson]

I am completely impartial and objective. I support ALL suspects put forward

All i ask for is sincerity in your answers

Henry DeFries, a gas fitter, 7 Middlesex Street.

[etenguy]

Has anyone ever suggested Lusk as a suspect - the only man claimed to be in possession of part of a victim's organ?

I'm not voting for him - just wondered if his leader of the Vigilance Committee was ever claimed to be a double bluff.

[GUT]

Has anyone ever suggested Lusk as a suspect - the only man claimed to be in possession of part of a victim's organ?

I'm not voting for him - just wondered if his leader of the Vigilance Committee was ever claimed to be a double bluff.

Yep he has been suggested before.

[OneRound]

Good day to all


So I wanted to ask for some feedback regarding suspects in the case.

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so I propose to start a league table of suspects based on each individual persons own beliefs. This may seem like a strange way to rank the likelihood of suspects, but I believe that if enough of us get involved and jump on board with this then I truly believe that it will be effective than first realised.

So let’s say that we go for a top 4 for each person on this site, it I’ll quickly build into a more cohesive picture of where the true answers are more likely to be hiding.

now as an aside to this, I appreciate than many of you have already chose their suspect with no room for manoeuvre. So let’s work with that too. But of course, if you only choose 1 suspect, as your first, second and third choice, that will only count once instead of 4 times.

so let’s say we use a scoring system for our Suspect League...
1st choice gets 10 points
2nd choice gets 5 points
3rd choice gets 2 points
4th choice gets 1 point

so let’s try it (and if it fails then we haven’t lost anything anyway)

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TRD

Hi Rookie - fair play to you for doing this and kicking off with the Ripper. Can't help feeling the A6 Murder or the Wallace Case would have been an easier starter.

Good luck!

OneRound

[DJA]

Henry DeFries, a gas fitter, 7 Middlesex Street.

Was he related to the fish and chips proprietor charged with salt and battery?

[etenguy]

Yep he has been suggested before.

Damn, I thought I had found one man connected to the case who had never been considered a suspect.

[The Rookie Detective]

Hi Rookie - fair play to you for doing this and kicking off with the Ripper. Can't help feeling the A6 Murder or the Wallace Case would have been an easier starter.

Good luck!

OneRound

Yeah, just starting to think this wasn't the best idea ha ha!


It's great that most have put forward some good suspects and a shame that some have just mocked it, but i can understand that so i never takes things personally.


I was going to start with the JFK shooting but i already have George Hickey responsible for that, so i opted for the ripper case instead ha ha


TRD

[The Rookie Detective]

Henry DeFries, a gas fitter, 7 Middlesex Street.

Is he your only suspect?


Top 4 please


many thanks


TRD

[The Rookie Detective]

Same old Herlock arguing for the sake of arguing

The police it seems was never notified as to his suspect viability, which only became public after his execution, so there was not much they could do then was there?

But 133 years later we can do some of the enquiries they might have done had they been made aware, and those enquiries put him firmly in the suspect catergory.

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Trevor, do you want me to put Feigenbaum as your only suspect?


Happy to do sir


TRD

[The Rookie Detective]

There is one suspect thats almost never mentioned, one that had been imprisoned for multiple knife attacks upon street women. He is the very first suspect that appears in books published on the murders...beginning later that Fall, and he was know to have been heading to London in early 1888. His whereabouts after that are unknown.

Nikolay Vasiliev, also called Nicolas Vassili or Wassily.

He is a mysterious figure, a combination of facts and myths, but nonetheless, interesting.

Do you want Vasiliev as your only suspect or do you have a top 4?



Many thanks

TRD

[The Rookie Detective]

How about a man who is known to have carried out vicious attacks - including the use of a knife - on prostitutes and who may have viewed Mary Kelly as a business asset who walked out in him?

Johannes Morganstern, who had an associate, Stephen Maywood, who was a horse dealer/drover with connections to Romford.

Do you want me to put Morgenstern as your only suspect or do you have a top 4?



Many thanks


TRD

[DJA]

Yeah, just starting to think this wasn't the best idea ha ha!


TRD

It's OK.

Just follow your own rules.

Will make "interesting reading" down the track.

[The Rookie Detective]

Best suspects? Nothing could be easier or more obvious.

1. John Edwin Colocott
2. Sarah Sadler
3. Andrea Scotti Di Carlo
4. William Gladstone
5. All of the above, possibly working together.

Thank you for your input


Sadler's husband James could have been a fair shot.

The Colocott/Cutbush fiasco baffles me.

Ha ha


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[The Rookie Detective]

It's OK.

Just follow your own rules.

Will make "interesting reading" down the track.

ha ha, i agree it will make interesting reading


I already love the input and it's nice to see so many different contributions


Vasiliev, Morgenstern, Bellsmith and of course Sutton


Some brilliant names put forward in addition to the more popular suggestions.


Keep them coming


I will amend the league table tomorrow


p.s. I'm surprised Fish hasn't put forward Lechmere yet, 10 points to be gained right there.



TRD

[The Rookie Detective]

Not a lot Herlock, to my dismay. He was mentioned as a Prime Suspect in a self published book by an author in New York before the end of 1888, and again in another the following year. Take a look at his Suspects file here, that should enlighten you a bit.

A deranged man in London, formerly imprisoned for stabbing street prostitutes, and no-one knows what he was doing or where he specifically was in the city. A self castrated zealot also...which might have created, or been spawned by, a negative view of women.

That's a great shout Michael, i will look into this suspect you put forward.


This is what this entire thread was designed to do, there's already some great names being put into the hat.


Hats off to you and Herlock for giving this thread some validity (and some others of course)



TRD