Miller's Court as a multiple crime scene

[Gene Lewis]

Hello all,
maybe this has been already discussed, but I just think about one curious thing: Miller's Court was a crime scene not only for the MJK murder, but for Kitty Ronan and that woman killed by her sister (Liz Marshall or something ?): Why don't we have crime scene pictures for these late murders? Did the papers missed to send photographers or someone for sketches ?
Pretty odd for such a famous place...

[Rob Clack]

There's a few sketches of the Marshall and Roman cases. Some have been published in Mark Oldridge's book 'Whitechapel & District' part of the Murder & Crime series published by the History Press. And there are some on Casebook and the jtrforums.
As for photos, I haven't come across any.

Rob

[DrHopper]

And let's not forget the later case of Joseph Carson who, by his own admission, may or may not have murdered Jane Williams.

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=6660

[Gene Lewis]

Hi Rob,
If I dare, where on the forum ? I can't fetch for these skeches... Do you remember where they're stored?

[Rob Clack]

Hi Rob,
If I dare, where on the forum ? I can't fetch for these skeches... Do you remember where they're stored?

I can't seem to fid them, they may have been lost in one of the crashes a few years back.

I did dig up this one from The People, Sunday 4 December 1898.



Rob

[Robert]

Hi folks

Here's a few of them :

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=542

[Gene Lewis]

Thank's Rob for that Miller's Court sketch, with a new point of view (at least, for me).

Robert : I did follow that link... Very surprising that there are no photos for the Kitty Ronan murder, though the MEPO had photographic teams at that time...

[DRoy]

Found these from The New York Press June 30, 1901. I haven't seen them before...

[Cogidubnus]

Those are cracking DRoy...

Thanks

Dave

[Robert]

Great sketches, DRoy. That one of the alley shows the same diagonal line of light and shadow visible in the Matters photo. I'm not sure about McCarthy's shop being a big murder site,though. And I didn't know that 35 Dorset was on a corner.

[DRoy]

Thanks Cogidubnus & Robert!

Here's another one I haven't seen before. It's from The National Police Gazette: New York August 17, 1889...

[Phil H]

It makes the squalid court look like a country cottage! Shows how misleading a sketch can be.

Phil H

[Stephen Thomas]

And let's not forget the later case of Joseph Carson who, by his own admission, may or may not have murdered Jane Williams.
http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=6660

I think you were wrong then and are wrong now.

May or may not have had?

[Dr. John Watson]

Found these from The New York Press June 30, 1901. I haven't seen them before...

These three rather detailed etchings/engravings may well have been made from photographs, the original prints and/or negatives of which may now repose in some newspaper photo archives (I don't think the New York Press is still in existence).

John

[DRoy]

And another...