Shelley House Stables

[Joshua Rogan]

Fantastic find Jerry, top work! I've been looking for something like that for ages, but all I came across was a reference to the rebuild in 1912-13.

[jerryd]

RD (Chris) brought up a point about the Shelly estate under the thread Coincidences. (Thanks Chris!) It kind of brings this thread full circle to the question: What prompted Claude Mellor to look in the underbrush of the Shelley estate garden in the first place? How did he get so lucky to find the thigh of Elizabeth Jackson resting in the underbrush? Did he receive a tip that we haven't heard about? Maybe a tip from the man he claimed was John Cleary. A completely different man from John Arnold and an ex-compositor living in Savoy Buildings who I think I have correctly identified as a man named Matthew Cleary. The man Mellor described was, age 35, ht. 6ft., comp. fresh, hair and heavy moustache dark, bald, medium build, speaks peculiar, as though he has no roof to his mouth; who about 4 months ago was residing at 2 Savoy Buildings, Strand.

Report from Inspector Henry Moore dated 12 Sept, 1889 from the Ultimate Sourcebook (Evans and Skinner):

Mr. Miller, Star Newspaper called and wished to know if it was a fact that John Cleary mentioned Back Church Lane to the editor of the Herald. If so, he attaches suspicion to an ex compositor of that name formerly employed on the Globe Newspaper. ?Seen. put with New York Herald papers 13/9 [sgd] Pro A.C.C. 13/9

Here is my research on Matthew Cleary, so far. Mostly from about Post #6 onward.

The Claude Mellor suspect: In search of the "real" John Cleary - Jack The Ripper Forums - Ripperology For The 21st Century

[Abby Normal]

RD (Chris) brought up a point about the Shelly estate under the thread Coincidences. (Thanks Chris!) It kind of brings this thread full circle to the question: What prompted Claude Mellor to look in the underbrush of the Shelley estate garden in the first place? How did he get so lucky to find the thigh of Elizabeth Jackson resting in the underbrush? Did he receive a tip that we haven't heard about? Maybe a tip from the man he claimed was John Cleary. A completely different man from John Arnold and an ex-compositor living in Savoy Buildings who I think I have correctly identified as a man named Matthew Cleary. The man Mellor described was, age 35, ht. 6ft., comp. fresh, hair and heavy moustache dark, bald, medium build, speaks peculiar, as though he has no roof to his mouth; who about 4 months ago was residing at 2 Savoy Buildings, Strand.

Report from Inspector Henry Moore dated 12 Sept, 1889 from the Ultimate Sourcebook (Evans and Skinner):

Mr. Miller, Star Newspaper called and wished to know if it was a fact that John Cleary mentioned Back Church Lane to the editor of the Herald. If so, he attaches suspicion to an ex compositor of that name formerly employed on the Globe Newspaper. ?Seen. put with New York Herald papers 13/9 [sgd] Pro A.C.C. 13/9

Here is my research on Matthew Cleary, so far. Mostly from about Post #6 onward.

The Claude Mellor suspect: In search of the "real" John Cleary - Jack The Ripper Forums - Ripperology For The 21st Century

as usual, great and fascinating stuff Jerry. You think maybe Cleary and wildbore were accomplices for the torso murders?

[jerryd]

as usual, great and fascinating stuff Jerry. You think maybe Cleary and wildbore were accomplices for the torso murders?

Hi abby!

Great question. Wish I had an answer, but I can say I think there were some informants (leakers) that went along with the murderers.