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  • #16
    More London Map Links From 'Victorian London' Website

    Here are some other maps that may be of interest. They contain a variety of London maps, not necessarily Goad maps.

    For example, the link below for Lee's wonderful website 'Victorian London' contains the following maps:

    — 1827 - Cruchley's New Plan of London
    — 1827 - Greenwood's Map of London
    — 1844 - Mogg's Plan for Viewing London [1.8MB]
    — 1848 - Bethnal Green
    — 1852 - Map from Watkins Directory
    — 1854 - Pictorial Handbook of London
    — 1859 - Reynolds Map of Modern London (Snow)
    — 1862 - Stanford's Library Map
    — 1871 - Whitbread's Map of London
    — 1877 - Stanford Parish Map [MAPCO]
    — 1889 - Charles Booth poverty map (1) (2)
    — 1895 - Reynolds' Shilling Map
    — 1899 - Pocket Guide to London
    — 1899 - Railway Map of Central London
    — interactive map (bridges, stations etc.)
    — list of maps (Dickens's Dictionary)

    VICTORIAN LONDON MAPS: http://www.victorianlondon.org/frame-maps.htm

    Best regards,
    Archaic
    Last edited by Archaic; 08-25-2011, 11:45 PM.

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    • #17
      MAPCO London Maps Free Online

      MAPCO stands for 'Map and Plan Collection Online' and is a cool non-profit map sites offering a huge variety of maps. The London maps in this collection go all the way back to about 190 AD!

      Map and Plan Collection Online: http://mapco.net/london.htm

      Best regards,
      Archaic

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      • #18
        Pardon my ignorance. Are this kind of maps intended to be accurate for scale and shape? For instance, looking at the map in this post it seemed to me odd how few corners were at right angles.

        Perhaps they used to build that way. Perhaps they still do and I just haven't paid notice to it.

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        • #19
          No hope...

          Originally posted by Rob Clack View Post
          Thanks Bun, looking at a Goad Map is one of the few things that get me excited these days
          Rob
          No hope for me then? And there was me thinking that I sometimes excite you (in the nicest possible way of course).
          SPE

          Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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          • #20
            Jon Ogan

            It is of interest to note, I think, that Jon Ogan first obtained copies of the relevant Goad maps back in 1994 and sent me copies from which the map of Buck's Row in my 1995 book The Lodger was drawn. It was quite a breakthrough for us back then when Jon located these maps.
            SPE

            Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Stewart P Evans View Post
              No hope for me then? And there was me thinking that I sometimes excite you (in the nicest possible way of course).
              You have no idea how much you excite me Stewart

              Rob

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              • #22
                I think...

                Originally posted by Rob Clack View Post
                You have no idea how much you excite me Stewart
                Rob
                I think we'd better take this to private messaging!!!
                SPE

                Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Stewart P Evans View Post
                  I think we'd better take this to private messaging!!!
                  Yes, that's a good idea.

                  Rob

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Stewart P Evans View Post
                    No hope for me then? And there was me thinking that I sometimes excite you (in the nicest possible way of course).
                    He is only interested in you if you have a One inch scale and come colour coded Stewart.

                    Monty
                    Monty

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                    • #25
                      Ah...

                      Originally posted by Monty View Post
                      He is only interested in you if you have a One inch scale and come colour coded Stewart.
                      Monty
                      Ah, but I do have other things that I know interest him. Can't say too much unless you are a member of the cartel.
                      SPE

                      Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Stewart P Evans View Post
                        Ah, but I do have other things that I know interest him. Can't say too much unless you are a member of the cartel.
                        Membership No 00000003 Stewart, after Tom and you.

                        Besides, for a cuppa and a slice of shortbread Rob sings like a canary.

                        Monty
                        Monty

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                        Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                        http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Monty View Post
                          He is only interested in you if you have a One inch scale and come colour coded Stewart.
                          Monty
                          "Goadophilia"...hmmm...


                          Sounds kinky.

                          Archaic

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                          • #28
                            Re: Rixa's Earlier Question

                            Originally posted by Rixa View Post
                            Pardon my ignorance. Are this kind of maps intended to be accurate for scale and shape? For instance, looking at the map in this post it seemed to me odd how few corners were at right angles.

                            Perhaps they used to build that way. Perhaps they still do and I just haven't paid notice to it.
                            Hi Rixa, and welcome to Casebook!

                            I've been checking into the answer to your question, and believe I've found it. In the post you attached, where the building lines weren't perfectly straight, these words appear below the image: "This is the Goad plan draft from March 1890."

                            A friend thought Jake might have been creating his own version of a Goad map, and that may be correct, but I interpret his words to mean that he actually came up with an original 1890 Goad draft. There must have been loads of drafts before the master was created, and as it was all done by hand, perhaps some of the lines weren't quite as perfect in the draft versions?

                            Of course, God only knows if the old buildings themselves were perfectly straight- I've seen Victorian photos where some clearly aren't.

                            Best regards,
                            Archaic

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Archaic View Post
                              A friend thought Jake might have been creating his own version of a Goad map, and that may be correct
                              I would suggest that it mightn't be the case.

                              Are you accusing Jake of deliberate deception?
                              allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                              • #30
                                Huh? Not sure what you mean, Stephen.

                                Someone who knows Jake said he may have been drawing a layout like a Goad map's to zero in on certain questions, but I found the bit in his post where he wrote that it was a detail from an 1890 Goad draft.

                                That's what I quoted in my reply to Rixa, and that's the answer that makes the most sense to me.

                                Best regards,
                                Archaic

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