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  • #16
    Here's my little list of milestones for the 1880s:

    Nietzsche's purple patch (Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Twilight of the Idols, Ecce Homo, Beyond Good & Evil, The Antichrist, The Genealogy of Morals, The Happy Science...). Also his "green" patch, where he spewed forth his bile about his former friend, Richard Wagner, in Nietzsche contra Wagner.

    Wagner's last opera, and arguably his masterpiece, Parsifal, was first performed in private, with Wagner himself conducting, in 1880. It was first performed in public after the composer's death, in 1882, when it was conducted by Hermann Levi. Here's an opera with a deeply Christian theme, of a German mediaeval romance drawing on French sources, written by an atheistic and rabidly anti-semitic composer, being given its official world premiere by a Jewish conductor. Who said opera was boring?

    Gustav Mahler, himself a great composer, conducts complete cycles of Wagner's Ring of the Nibelungen at Leipzig. It was also in the 1880s that Mahler's First Symphony was performed. He would later go on to write another 9 symphonies, but being superstitious of reaching his "ninth" (Beethoven and Schubert had both died on nine), he cunningly called what should have been his 9th symphony "The Song of the Earth". This ruse seemed to work, for he finished his next symphony (which he was then happy to call his "Ninth") unscathed. Unfortunately, he died half-way through writing his 10th. Serves him right.

    Sigmund Freud qualifies in medicine and studies with Charcot at the Salpêtrière hospital in Paris, under whose tutelage it could be said that Freud's interest in psychiatry was forged. This set in motion a movement which, over the next century, would soften the brains of the Western World with nonsensical pronouncements about symbolism and sexuality. Way to go, Siggi!

    Gilbert & Sullivan wrote The Mikado, The Yeomen of the Guard and Iolanthe (amongst other lesser gems). Gilbert o'Sullivan didn't write anything - so this decade wasn't all doom and gloom after all
    Kind regards, Sam Flynn

    "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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    • #17
      Gilbert & Sullivan - although their collaboration dates from the 1870's, their best work was in the 1880's (cf: Sam's post)

      Oscar Wilde - is it me, or is this genius becoming forgotten these days?

      The Diesel engine (with a capital 'D') - believe it or not!

      Otto Lilienthal - he who established the basic requirements for flight (unless you're a Cayleyite, that is)

      Modern steel-making techniques - your car would fall apart without them.

      Electric lighting - the Savoy Theatre (Gilbert & Sullivan) was the first theatre in the world to be lit by incandescent bulbs.

      The electric chair - great unless your name was Kemmler

      My Gran - born in 1880 and still fondly remembered as a genuine English eccentric and nut-case.

      Cheers,

      Graham
      Last edited by Graham; 04-17-2009, 11:27 PM.
      We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Graham View Post
        The electric chair - great unless your name was Kemmler
        ... for those who don't know, Kemmler had only just invented the steam chair. You can imagine how annoyed he was
        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
          ... for those who don't know, Kemmler had only just invented the steam chair. You can imagine how annoyed he was
          Hey guys, anyone got a dime for the meter?

          G
          We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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          • #20
            1889, Ludwig Wittgenstein born. He was the author of that great coffee table book, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Robert View Post
              1889, Ludwig Wittgenstein born. He was the author of that great coffee table book, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus.
              Robert,

              I just read it whilst waiting for my missus to get ready to go out....God, it's so trite.

              Graham
              We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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              • #22
                No Sam Flynn.
                Maybe that's just wishful thinking!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Graham View Post
                  God, it's so trite.
                  ... as Prince Philip said, as he explained why he declined a portion of smoked eel.
                  Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                  "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                  • #24
                    Qed!!!
                    Last edited by Mr.Hyde; 04-18-2009, 12:38 AM. Reason: UsualUsual.

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                    • #25
                      Well Graham, I read Kant's Critique of Pure Reason and I couldn't bloody make out any of the words in the bubbles.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Robert View Post
                        Well Graham, I read Kant's Critique of Pure Reason and I couldn't bloody make out any of the words in the bubbles.
                        Oi, you callin' me Kant, or wot? Eh?

                        Graham
                        We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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                        • #27
                          Fascinating match between Pasteur and Koch.
                          0-0.

                          Amitiés, healthy posters,
                          David

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                          • #28
                            From a numismatist's point of view, some excellent coinage.

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                            • #29
                              What I love about Old Sparky {and what's not to love, apart, of course, its loathsome continued use?} is the opportunism displayed by that perpetual son of fun T.A. Edison, who agitated for this brand new engine of death to be named "The Westinghouse Chair". Still, I guess at least that was better than another leading contender, the frankly dull - if concisely accurate - "Electromort".
                              "If you listen to the tills you can hear the bells toll. You can hear what a state we're in".

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                              • #30
                                Light bulbs! I'm obsessed with those things! My oldest still-operating bulb (a 15v Edison-miniature based C6) is from 1923.
                                - Ginger

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