Retracing the Steps

[Ryan_Miller]

I did my best to trace the paths that the victims would have traveled on the nights of their murder using the timeline on the victims page. I tried to stay true to what the casebook timeline states, and filled in the shortest distance from point A to Point B when their were no details in between. (Note: that is only an assumption, as they may have taken longer routes or stopped off on their way to the next noted location.) I hope this can prove to be some form of help. If you see anything that I should change or anything I should add please let me know. I would like to make this as accurate and easy to read as possible. The darker shades of the same color indicate the victim returning down a street they've already been down, and the black dot indicate the murder site. Please offer your feedback so I know what to change, etc.

[DarkPassenger]

This saves me a job - I had the same idea.

A truly invaluable resource - thank you very much!

[Fisherman]

Good idea, Ryan!

Can I just add that we know that Stride travelled south of the IWMEC, towards Ellen Street, together with Marshalls man a short time before she was murdered. How long, though - who knows?

The best,
Fisherman

[Ryan_Miller]

Thanks and glad to hear you all appreciate it. It was something I hadn't seen yet and although some have told me it was a waste of time I decided that since I'm more of a visual person, maybe this would be of some help to others. Something about seeing these routes on the map is interesting to me, and I will update it adding her southbound traveling. Thanks for the info... Real quick though, when throughout the day did she travel south towards Ellen Street?

[Sam Flynn]

Nice piece of work, Ryan. It sometimes helps to work backwards from a problem, so this is good food for thought

[Ryan_Miller]

Updated

I tried to update it as you said... let me know if this looks okay to you? I also tried to clean up the image a good deal. Enjoy!

[Ryan_Miller]

If anyone would like me to e-mail them a clear or larger sized image of this let me know. The quality has been compromised to allow it to fit on the boards.

[Ryan_Miller]

It sure does look like they all (except for Polly) were around Dorset Street during some part of their final day. Odd isn't it!

[Stephen Thomas]

Hi Ryan

A super graphic. The first one was great and the second even better. Many thanks. A bit of fine tuning would improve it even more. You've got Mitre Square in slightly the wrong place and Millers Court too far down Dorset Street. Also you might want to risk annoying people by putting in Kelly's traditional route down Commercial Street past Thrawl Street for completeness.

Thanks again. Excellent stuff.

Stephen

[Ryan_Miller]

I'm glad that you appreciate the image, it has been a minor headache trying to get this just right. I now see what you are talking about with Mitre Square. I accidentally placed it in St. James Place instead of Mitre Square. Thats what happens when I try to pack several things into the late hours of the night.
I have been using my copy of the "Jack the Ripper: Whitechapel Map Booklet of 1888" to help me locate all of the sites. It has proven to be alot more difficult to find the site on the larger detailed section of the map and then translate it over to the smaller hard to read full map of Whitechapel. I was actually surprised to see that I put Mitre Square in St. James Place on both versions of the Map, and I apologize for not catching that on my second attempt.
When I get home from work I will try to go back and fix the Map. If you don't mind me asking though, why would adding Kelly's route down Commercial past Thrawl street annoy anyone? If you believe it will be of some added help visually I would be more than happy to add it, but if you feel it will be more of a hinderance then I'll leave it off.

[Stephen Thomas]

If you don't mind me asking though, why would adding Kelly's route down Commercial past Thrawl street annoy anyone? If you believe it will be of some added help visually I would be more than happy to add it, but if you feel it will be more of a hinderance then I'll leave it off.

Hi Ryan

You obviously haven't been following the Hutchinson threads for the last couple of years! I, for one, would like to see the route described in Hutchinson's statement on your fine graphic. It would be better, I think, if you post it in two halves like this to prevent the page being distorted.....

[Ben]

Hi Ryan,

I think what Stephen means is that for those of us who are inclined to believe that Hutchinson was not entirely truthful, the inclusion of aspects of his statement on maps such of these - and particularly his version of Kelly's route - may be of dubious value. I doubt anyone would have any real objections to your including one, and it certainly wouldn't "annoy" me, providing it is labelled specifically as Hutchinson's account of Kelly's route.

Excellent work on the maps to date!

All the best,
Ben

[Sam Flynn]

The problem we have, of course, is that some of the victims - notably Nichols, Chapman and Stride - had been out and about for quite some time before they died. This means that they could have gone anywhere, and arrived at the place of their deaths from any route, in the time available.

Different for the killer(s) involved, however. He/they would likely have tried to get to ground as soon as possible after each murder - whether back "home" or to a bolt-hole - before the alarm was raised with the police.

[WARSPITE]

It sure does look like they all (except for Polly) were around Dorset Street during some part of their final day. Odd isn't it!

Thanks Ryan.What a great idea.I agree, Dorset St, although not the topographical epicentre, does seem to be central to everything, even if it hadnt been home for some of the victims.Dunno why.