Hauntings associated with the Murder scenes?

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi Jeff,

"And although I have never experineced anything super natural myself, I remain 'open minded'."

It'll get you when you least expect it!

Nah, my haunting days are over thank god. I did enjoy encountering a few 'Spirits' in the bar with Derek however...

[gojo65]

Thanks for the responses...and a theory or two?

Hi Guys...thanks for the information..I am a Tour Guide part-time for the Ghosts Of Williamsburg Candlelight walking tours in Williamsburg, VA..if you're ever in the area let me know and I will gladly get you on the tour! I am not so much into the psychic aspects of the paranormal. I cannot stand the show Most Haunted and feel that they have done more to set that field back than any other show on television. I am a fan of the show Ghost Hunters though and really like the way they do their investigating from a scientific point of view.

I have had a couple of experiences out on the streets of Williamsburg during the course of my tours. Mainly seeing things out of the corner of my eye or seeing weird unexplainable images captured in my guest's photos on their digital cameras.

This subject, of JTR has always fascinated me. The paranormal angle of course seems to be a logical(?) connection.

I don't ask that you believe or not believe in this sort of thing. I am rather curious to find out if there are stories, or legends about the sites themselves. If anyone has had something show up in a photo or if anyone has done any serious (not Most Haunted) investigations at the sites or if during a visit, someone encountered something or saw an unexplained phenomena.

I am also deeply interested in the possible suspects. My theory is that the true JTR was completely overlooked. He was never a suspect and was probably someone who would have been so ordinary he just blended in everyday society in the east end. Or he might have been such an upstanding citizen that he was automatically "above suspicion". I am sure this is nothing new!!

I wonder as in the some serial cases today, if the police had a guy who was at every crime scene? Who seemed eager to help them in anyway that he could, if they kept running accross the same individual at every scene? Or if there was someone who showed a particular fascination with the murders and considered himself an "expert" who offered his services to the detectives?

Anyway, I know you can tell I am completely new to all of this in so many ways, I read all that I can on this subject and think it's great that there is a place like this website to share theories and ask questions of some of the best sources of information on the web..thanks again!

I am off reading and researching some of the information you have provided me with...

Thanks again
GoJo65

[Celesta]

Brenda and Jeff,

I've heard of several specters that haunt Dutfield's Yard complaining that it doesn't look like it did in 1888.

Nah, my haunting days are over thank god. I did enjoy encountering a few 'Spirits' in the bar with Derek however...

[cats meat man]

Not a haunting associated with the murder scenes but something strange that happened last weekend.I was in York with my girlfriend,staying overnight in The Guy Fawkes Hotel.Nice place and supposedly his birthplace was in a little cottage out the back.Later in the evening we called into The Golden Fleece at the bottom of The Shambles,a cosy pub with uneven floors and good atmosphere.We were sitting having a drink in the bar at the back of the pub when my girlfriend said something about the strange dress sense of somebody who had just walked past her,only I didn't see anybody and asked what she meant.She looked at me as if I was winding her up but went on to explain that they had gone into the toilets in the corridor so I would see them when they came out.You've guessed it.They never came out again!When I asked what they looked like she told me there were two fellas,dressed in tight dark clothing,both wearing cravats or scarves and they both looked like Buddy Holly but without specs!
Do I believe in ghosts?
That'll Be The Day.......

[Observer]

Hi all

This would be a good thread to post a picture a freind of mine took some years back. It was taken looking West from the juction of Hanbury Street and Brick Lane, the murder site of Annie Chapman appears in the distance to the right. It was taken very early if I remember rightly, and although there was no flash fitted to the camera, the no entry signs on either side of the street shine as though some light has been beamed off them. I am assured by my freind that no cars were pasinng at the time it being very early in the morning.

I can vouch for the fact that no flash was on the camera at the time because my freind does not own a camera, and the camera he was using at the time was mine, an Olympus Trip, one of the original metal jobs, I did not give him a flash.

In the bottom left of the picture is a white hazy cloud like form, and if one looks carefully what appears to be a womans face can be seen, closer inspection shows that her nose looks as if it has been cut off.

I do not believe that anything supernatural happened the day my freind took that photo, he being of a superstitious nature believes it to be a spirit. I however believe there is an explination for the image, what I can't explain so easily is the way(if no cars were in the area at the time) in which the road signs glow.

He has the photo but is reluctant to let me scan and post it, as I said he is a very supertitious man.

All the best

Observer

[Observer]

PS

If this is the spirit of Katherine Eddowes, as my freind believes, don't ask me what she's doing at the corner of Brick Lane and Hanbury Street.


This is not a wind up the picture does exist

all the best

Observer

[Steve S]

Hi Guys...thanks for the information..I am a Tour Guide part-time for the Ghosts Of Williamsburg Candlelight walking tours in Williamsburg, VA..if you're ever in the area let me know and I will gladly get you on the tour!
I have had a couple of experiences out on the streets of Williamsburg during the course of my tours. Mainly seeing things out of the corner of my eye or seeing weird unexplainable images captured in my guest's photos on their digital cameras.

And very good tours they are!...As a 1750's Re-enactor,I want to haunt Williamsburg when I die......
Steve

[Jeff Leahy]

Not a haunting associated with the murder scenes but something strange that happened last weekend.I was in York with my girlfriend,staying overnight in The Guy Fawkes Hotel.Nice place and supposedly his birthplace was in a little cottage out the back.Later in the evening we called into The Golden Fleece at the bottom of The Shambles,a cosy pub with uneven floors and good atmosphere.We were sitting having a drink in the bar at the back of the pub when my girlfriend said something about the strange dress sense of somebody who had just walked past her,only I didn't see anybody and asked what she meant.She looked at me as if I was winding her up but went on to explain that they had gone into the toilets in the corridor so I would see them when they came out.You've guessed it.They never came out again!When I asked what they looked like she told me there were two fellas,dressed in tight dark clothing,both wearing cravats or scarves and they both looked like Buddy Holly but without specs!
Do I believe in ghosts?
That'll Be The Day.......

By bizarre coincidence that bar I was talking about was the Guy Fawkes Hotel???????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

Could it be that those strange men in tights were in fact Derek and I on our way to the other side?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0483883/

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Derek-Acorahs-Quest-Guy-Fawkes/dp/B000HIUWZI

Spooky

If you decide to invest in a copy (snip at £15)..and the reconstructions were/are the best in the business...check out the ghostly sieance.

Of course you could just wait for Guy Fawkes night as they repeat it every year..if only I'd been on a percentage?

Oh well...

Pirate

[Pippin Joan]

I am a fan of the show Ghost Hunters though and really like the way they do their investigating from a scientific point of view. GoJo65

I like those guys, too! Straight-forward New England plumbers by day, paranormal investigators at night. If anyone gets "spooked", they get yelled at for being girly. Including the girls.

I suppose we think it perfectly logical that certain horrible events would yield up a bump in the night, but who are we to decide which spirits will be restless or not?

[gojo65]

And very good tours they are!...As a 1750's Re-enactor,I want to haunt Williamsburg when I die......
Steve

Hey Steve, where do you re-enact? Have you done our Ghosts Tour in Williamsburg? I work with a guy who is a civil war confederate re-enactor and he is really into the whole civil war era.

You are most welcome to come and haunt Colonial Williamsburg when you pass to the other side..you should be in fine company too....the ghosts of little Matthew Whaley, Lady Ann Skipwith and George Wythe to keep you company...

One of the weirdest things I have ever heard of associated with Colonial Wiliamsburg and our tour. A fellow tour guide watched along with 27 other people (his tour group) witnessed two continential soldiers marching in front of the Bruton Parish Church on the Duke of Gloucester street. The odd thing was as they watched them marching, thinking they were a part of the "show" the soldiers marched straight thru the brick wall surrounding the cemetary and church and disappeared.

You can go over to www.theghosttour.com to view photos our guests have taken while on tour with us...some of them are pretty strange..

I have seen a half bodied apparition in a photo taken by one of my tour guests..was a woman in the window of the Peyton Randolph House...

Would love to be able to go back to London and do the Ripper walk..have been twice to London and each time, with people who had no interest in the Ripper, which I cannot understand....and I am certainly not brave enough to go to those locations alone..(even in the daylight)...or we simply ran out of time while in the city...

Thanks Again..
GoJo65

[gojo65]

[QUOTE=Pippin Joan;50221]I like those guys, too! Straight-forward New England plumbers by day, paranormal investigators at night. If anyone gets "spooked", they get yelled at for being girly. Including the girls.



Hey Pippin Joan..I have been very lucky in being able to say that I have met both Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson of TAPS (aka Ghost Hunters) twice and yes, they are as down to earth and easy going in person as they seem on TV.

In listening to them speak about their investigations and so forth, I came away with the feeling that if anyone out there doing this sort of thing in the public eye were on the up and up well, it would have to be these guys..

I was lucky enough to be able to travel to Warwick RI last Decemeber and attend one of the Ghost Hunting 101 classes with Kris Gartland of TAPS who has appeared on the show with them..it was more of an informative juncture on my part, while I have an interest in the paranormal it really doesn't go too much beyond that. Think I would be too chicken to go on an actual hunt, and as they say It was curosity that killed the cat...so, I'll stick to my Ghost tours in Williamsburg and watching from home the adventures of the Ghost Hunters on Sci-Fi...

Thanks again for replying to my post and again if your ever in Williamsburg,VA let me knowand I will give you a great evenings worth of the best Ghost Stories in the Historical section of Colonial Williamsburg..

Sincerely,
GOJO65

[Steve S]

Hey Steve, where do you re-enact? Have you done our Ghosts Tour in Williamsburg? I work with a guy who is a civil war confederate re-enactor and he is really into the whole civil war era.

You are most welcome to come and haunt Colonial Williamsburg when you pass to the other side..you should be in fine company too....the ghosts of little Matthew Whaley, Lady Ann Skipwith and George Wythe to keep you company...

One of the weirdest things I have ever heard of associated with Colonial Wiliamsburg and our tour. A fellow tour guide watched along with 27 other people (his tour group) witnessed two continential soldiers marching in front of the Bruton Parish Church on the Duke of Gloucester street. The odd thing was as they watched them marching, thinking they were a part of the "show" the soldiers marched straight thru the brick wall surrounding the cemetary and church and disappeared.

You can go over to www.theghosttour.com to view photos our guests have taken while on tour with us...some of them are pretty strange..

I have seen a half bodied apparition in a photo taken by one of my tour guests..was a woman in the window of the Peyton Randolph House...

Would love to be able to go back to London and do the Ripper walk..have been twice to London and each time, with people who had no interest in the Ripper, which I cannot understand....and I am certainly not brave enough to go to those locations alone..(even in the daylight)...or we simply ran out of time while in the city...

Thanks Again..
GoJo65

Weird 'tho it may sound...I re-enact the French & Indian War in the UK...I'm a misplaced Mass. Militiaman......Yes,we did the tour..AND I bought the book of local ghosts(along with about 10 18th century books......)
Steve

[Lord Lucan]

I just got my Ghost Hunters series 4.1 dvd last Thursday. Now all I need is the rest of the family to have an early night so I can get in an episode or two.

[Carrotty Nell]

I don't know about the murder scenes (never visited one after dark, too much of a coward) but something odd (at least unexpected) happened when I recently visited the grave of a major suspect (I shan't say which one). I was standing looking down at the grave and suddenly the notion of being mocked came into my mind. I say this was very odd. Mockery is not something I would have associated with this particular suspect, or indeed with JTR. As a general rule I do not believe in the paranormal (although not a stony-hearted sceptic - open to being convinced.)

[Veritas]

Actually the moder car park does not stand on the scene of 13 Millers Court.