East End Photographs and Drawings

[John Casey]

What's happening peops!?

Hey guys n gals, have just been having a look round the forums for the first time in a while. Noticed there hadn't been any activity on this thread for a while so I thought I'd try to kick start it! So has anybody got any new photos of (whats left) of the sites? IS there anything left of Mitre Sq?? Look forward to seeing some new photos hopefully.

All the best

John

[AdamWalsh]

Gosh just walked through Mitre Square for the first time in about 6 months....the bench and flower bed section are now gone! I know they werent original but still had been there ever since my first visit years before. Also...walked up the alley by The White Hart and someone had started writing with chalk "The juwes are the men.." and presumably were interrupted. I see the flats at the end of that alley by the Tabram murder site have now been demolished! The area is slowly vanishing!

[jsantos]

Dorset Street, 1895

[Geddy2112]

Geddy, was it a shot looking down Miller's Court with a man apparently holding a broom?

Don't think so, I think it showed a bloke coming out holding a kettle asking if anyone could fix his spout!

[Robert]

Geddy, was it a shot looking down Miller's Court with a man apparently holding a broom?

[Geddy2112]

Do you have a copy of the photo you could scan, or a link, Geddy?

Unfortunately not. It got passed around the group and I was going to take a cheeky snap with my phone but it went past me. I was at the front so saw it close enough. I would recognise it if it were posted here...

[Rosella]

Do you have a copy of the photo you could scan, or a link, Geddy?

[Geddy2112]

Whilst on my Ripper Tour last Friday the tour guide showed us a photograph of Dorset Street in Ripper times. She said that night (3rd June) was the first time she had shown the photo on tour. I've not seen it before. Any ideas?

[caz]

I couldn't agree more Miss M. Everyone took the P out of Prince Charles for his 'monstrous carbuncle' statement, but he's actually quite right.

Maybe people wouldn't take the p quite so much if he admitted you can't get rid of monstrous carbuncles using homeopathy.

High rise living is becoming fashionable again because the cost of space anywhere near the centre of London is so monstrous.

Love,

Caz
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[Pierre]

Hi Yebs,

Where did you find the sketch?

Regards, Pierre

Found it!

[Pierre]

Even in the sketch of the millers court entrance there seems to be a parked carriage at approximately the spot where it appears in both photographs

Hi Yebs,

Where did you find the sketch?

Regards, Pierre

[Rosella]

Thanks for that information, Rosella! Maybe that is what they are, Hansom cabs. Looking at this pic: http://www.heritageexplorer.org.uk/f...e/3831_450.jpg
...it seems the explanation for the white spot we see in both pics may be a sort of registration plate.

All public carriages, including Hansom cabs, had to be licensed at the Public Carriage Office at Scotland Yard from 1869, so they probably are some kind of licence plates.

[Yabs]

Both taken on the road.

Crossinghams on the corner of Paternoster Row is in the front left of both photos.Second building.35 Dorset Street.


The lamp nearest the carriage is actually 3 doors closer to the camera than Millers Court.

thanks that seems right.
As a rough guide I think this would this be the general positioning with the lamps represented as yellow and where the photographer stood in purple

[Fisherman]

I don't know about carriages but Hansom cabs certainly had stands. They and big family sized ex private carriages for hire, known as 'growlers', picked up customers from stands usually, not while out and about in the streets. Mostly they would wait in stands near railway stations, theatres, big hotels, but maybe Dorset St was a rare exception.

Thanks for that information, Rosella! Maybe that is what they are, Hansom cabs. Looking at this pic: http://www.heritageexplorer.org.uk/f...e/3831_450.jpg
...it seems the explanation for the white spot we see in both pics may be a sort of registration plate.

[DJA]

Quite likely belonged to John McCarthy.
He had five properties in that stretch of Dorset Street.