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Originally posted by Lechmere View PostThe other day I was driving down Whitechapel Road when I noticed a fellow human being lying flat on his back, in broad daylight, near the corner with Vallance Road.allisvanityandvexationofspirit
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Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View PostHe was probably trying to break a bar of chocolate in his back trouser pocket.
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Originally posted by Monty View PostYou a Chick Murray fan Stephen?
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Stephen,
No but my Mother is Scots so I've been kinda bought up on him.
Oh dear Edward,
You are hyper sensitive today aren't you?
Have I mentioned you or your post? Let me make it easy for you....the answer is no. Merely put in a simple request to keep this thread free from all the suspect debate which plagues other ones.
So really no need for the defensive attitude. I honestly didn't think I make you that jumpy.
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Spitalfields Weaver
I came across this old photo of a Spitalfields weaver at work. He must have been one of the last.
I saw two different dates for the photo, 1885 and 1895. Does anybody know which is correct? I wonder if it might be a bit older than that.
I thought the photo was interesting because histories of the East End always mention that the old 18th C. Spitalfields houses had large upper-story windows to provide light for the weavers, and this pic shows one of the windows in use with the sunlight streaming in.
Best regards,
Archaic
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Irish Weaver In Spitalfields?
I'm wondering if the weaver shown in the photo posted above might be an Irish weaver rather than one descended from French Huguenots?
I got the idea because the two small pictures on the wall above the door appear to be images of Jesus and Mary, possibly images of the Sacred Heart. This suggests the weaver depicted is a Catholic, whereas the Huguenots were Protestants.
Apparently Irish weavers started arriving in Spitalfields after the Huguenots, c. 1730 or so. The weaving industry in Spitalfields was flagging in the 19th C., and went into a dramatic decline c. 1860 when a new treaty with France allowed cheaper French woven goods to flood the market. I don't know when the last of the old-time weavers left Spitalfields, but I'm guessing that some of them must have hung on in increasing poverty.
Perhaps this photo was taken closer to the 1860's-1870's rather than c. 1885-1895? It reminds me of the work of 1870's photographers like John Thomson.
Looking forward to hearing what you think.
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Archaic
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That is, indeed, a great photo, Bunny. Great example of the use of these distinct windows in many of the buildings in the area. Of course, No. 29 Hanbury St. had been occupied by weavers at one time.
Yes, the trade had fallen off considerably in the area by the mid 19th century for the reasons you have stated. I went through my research files on Dr. Phillips as I recalled some of his neighbors still in the millinery business. There was a Samuel England at 15 Spital Square in 1881 listed as a silk manufacturer and several children in households listed as apprentices in silk weaving. What was left by then seem to still be in the neighborhood of their origin in the Norton Folgate area and just east of there.Best Wishes,
Hunter
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