Whitehchapel pubs, with a Ripper connection......

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  • The Station Cat
    Premium Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 641

    #1

    Whitehchapel pubs, with a Ripper connection......

    Being a regular visitor to Whitechapel, I like to just walk round the place. I've done the murder scenes to death (pardon the pun) and I think most will agree with regards to them there's not a great deal to see. Some parts of the district do make it possible to imagine what it was like there "back in the day".

    On my most recent visit, I decided to try and visit every pub with a Ripper connection, still in existence..............

    Culpeper (Princess Alice) on Commercial Street - Pizer & Coles are known to have frequented.

    King's Store on Sandy Row - Kelly being a patron.

    10 Bells - no introduction needed there.

    The Bell on Middlesex Street - Coles drank there.

    Pride of Spitalfields Heneage Street - Hardiman & Hutchinson (Ripper suspects) both used this pub as their local.

    Duke of Wellington Brune Street - no connection but pretty much in the middle of the area, someone with a connection must have drank in there

    The Brown Bear on Lemen Street - of Ripper Street fame.

    What I found most interesting was that none of these pubs had jumped on the band wagon as tourist attractions. I even asked the landlord of the Brown Bear why he hadn't done so.

    Having had two pints in each (3 in The Bell), I was slightly soaked

    Would be interested to know if I've missed any for next time.........
    Last edited by The Station Cat; 01-07-2018, 07:17 AM.
  • Steve S
    Casebook Supporter
    • Jun 2008
    • 378

    #2
    McCarthy spoke at a meeting in the Wellington, about bad perceptions of the area

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    • Sam Flynn
      Casebook Supporter
      • Feb 2008
      • 13333

      #3
      Kłosowski's White Hart.
      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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      • Abby Normal
        Commissioner
        • Jun 2010
        • 11939

        #4
        Originally posted by The Station Cat View Post
        Being a regular visitor to Whitechapel, I like to just walk round the place. I've done the murder scenes to death (pardon the pun) and I think most will agree with regards to them there's not a great deal to see. Some parts of the district do make it possible to imagine what it was like there "back in the day".

        On my most recent visit, I decided to try and visit every pub with a Ripper connection, still in existence..............

        Culpeper (Princess Alice) on Commercial Street - Pizer & Coles are known to have frequented.

        King's Store on Sandy Row - Kelly being a patron.

        10 Bells - no introduction needed there.

        The Bell on Middlesex Street - Coles drank there.

        Pride of Spitalfields Heneage Street - Hardiman & Hutchinson (Ripper suspects) both used this pub as their local.

        Duke of Wellington Brune Street - no connection but pretty much in the middle of the area, someone with a connection must have drank in there

        The Brown Bear on Lemen Street - of Ripper Street fame.

        What I found most interesting was that none of these pubs had jumped on the band wagon as tourist attractions. I even asked the landlord of the Brown Bear why he hadn't done so.

        Having had two pints in each (3 in The Bell), I was slightly soaked

        Would be interested to know if I've missed any for next time.........
        Hi Cat
        Interesting idea for a thread. are all the ones you mention still open and operating as pubs?
        "Is all that we see or seem
        but a dream within a dream?"

        -Edgar Allan Poe


        "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
        quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

        -Frederick G. Abberline

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        • The Station Cat
          Premium Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 641

          #5
          Originally posted by Steve S View Post
          McCarthy spoke at a meeting in the Wellington, about bad perceptions of the area
          That's interesting so it does have a sort of a Ripper connection after all.

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          • The Station Cat
            Premium Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 641

            #6
            Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
            Kłosowski's White Hart.

            Of course, forgot about that one. Have sunk many a pint in there over the years



            There's also the Blind Beggar (of Kray fame), would be interested to know whether that has an Ripper connection?

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            • The Station Cat
              Premium Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 641

              #7
              Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
              Hi Cat
              Interesting idea for a thread. are all the ones you mention still open and operating as pubs?

              Yes most certainly!!! A couple are a bit trendy now, but most of them still retain an atmosphere (well I think so). Certainly well worth visiting!!!

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              • Geddy2112
                Inspector
                • Dec 2015
                • 1327

                #8
                Was the 10 Bells known as the 'Jack The Ripper' for a while or did I dream that?
                "The Lechmere theory never shoehorns facts. It deals in facts."

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                • The Station Cat
                  Premium Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 641

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
                  Was the 10 Bells known as the 'Jack The Ripper' for a while or did I dream that?
                  Not a dream, for a short period it was. Glad they changed it back.

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                  • ChrisGeorge
                    Chief Inspector
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 1625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
                    Was the 10 Bells known as the 'Jack The Ripper' for a while or did I dream that?
                    Yes it was. There was also a bar in lower Manhattan by the name of "Jack the Ripper" and neither succeeded, which to my mind is significant. Similarly there has never been a major play or musical based on the case. Given that the Whitechapel murders were a true-life case, perhaps it's too close to the bone!
                    Christopher T. George
                    Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
                    just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
                    For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
                    RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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                    • Geddy2112
                      Inspector
                      • Dec 2015
                      • 1327

                      #11
                      On my last walk around the area I'm sure I spotted a Gents hairdressers called 'Jack The Clippers' mmmmmm
                      "The Lechmere theory never shoehorns facts. It deals in facts."

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                      • Joshua Rogan
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 3205

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
                        On my last walk around the area I'm sure I spotted a Gents hairdressers called 'Jack The Clippers' mmmmmm
                        Yep! A few doors up from the Wellington, at 6 Toynbee Street.

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                        • Joshua Rogan
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 3205

                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Station Cat View Post
                          That's interesting so it does have a sort of a Ripper connection after all.
                          Indeed. McCarthy's speech is reported here;

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                          • ChrisGeorge
                            Chief Inspector
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 1625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Geddy2112 View Post
                            On my last walk around the area I'm sure I spotted a Gents hairdressers called 'Jack The Clippers' mmmmmm
                            Some would say that is exploiting the murders (and thus the victims too), although others might insist that the name is just a witty observation on local history....
                            Christopher T. George
                            Organizer, RipperCon #JacktheRipper-#True Crime Conference
                            just held in Baltimore, April 7-8, 2018.
                            For information about RipperCon, go to http://rippercon.com/
                            RipperCon 2018 talks can now be heard at http://www.casebook.org/podcast/

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                            • Geddy2112
                              Inspector
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 1327

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
                              Some would say that is exploiting the murders (and thus the victims too), although others might insist that the name is just a witty observation on local history....
                              Indeed however apart from the odd thing in the London Dungeon, a figure at the old Wax works there is not much 'exploitation' of Jack and his poor victims. Some might say more might have been expected.

                              However there are a fair few 'walks' that are full every night so I guess the walk hosts have made the most from it all..
                              "The Lechmere theory never shoehorns facts. It deals in facts."

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