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  • John G
    Commissioner
    • Sep 2014
    • 4919

    #556
    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    But "freemasonary" is a large instituional organisation!

    This is not about such an organisation, it is a particular, idiographic history, it is about biography and not about organisations.

    Do organisations have preferred victimologies?
    I'm guessing this means you're also rejecting the freemasonary hypothesis!

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    • Pierre
      Inactive
      • Sep 2015
      • 4407

      #557
      [QUOTE=John G;394845]

      Why do you say he cared one way or another as to whether the writing was blurred? As it could clearly be understood he had achieved his objective.
      Everything you call "clearly understood" here is a set of mistakes made by everyone who tried to understand the GSG and were not recipients.

      The communication could be understood exclusively by one specific recipient.

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      • David Orsam
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        • Nov 2014
        • 7916

        #558
        Originally posted by Pierre View Post
        There were other types of surfaces. There were not just walls with rough surfaces or "no blackboards". And there was another alternative: to abstain from writing on any surface.
        Yes, he certainly could have abstained from writing anything but that's not the issue because he obviously wanted to write something and the only available surfaces were not blackboards.

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        • John G
          Commissioner
          • Sep 2014
          • 4919

          #559
          [QUOTE=Pierre;394857]
          Originally posted by John G View Post



          Everything you call "clearly understood" here is a set of mistakes made by everyone who tried to understand the GSG and were not recipients.

          The communication could be understood exclusively by one specific recipient.
          In your opinion.

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          • Pierre
            Inactive
            • Sep 2015
            • 4407

            #560
            Originally posted by John G View Post
            I'm guessing this means you're also rejecting the freemasonary hypothesis!
            Of course. There are many sources, all of them pointing in a very different direction.

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            • Pierre
              Inactive
              • Sep 2015
              • 4407

              #561
              [QUOTE=John G;394859]
              Originally posted by Pierre View Post

              In your opinion.
              It can´t be just an opinion. I wish it was.

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              • John G
                Commissioner
                • Sep 2014
                • 4919

                #562
                [QUOTE=Pierre;394857]
                Originally posted by John G View Post



                Everything you call "clearly understood" here is a set of mistakes made by everyone who tried to understand the GSG and were not recipients.

                The communication could be understood exclusively by one specific recipient.
                By "clearly understood" I'm not referring to the meaning. I simply mean the words could be clearly read, so the choice of wall served its functional purpose.

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                • David Orsam
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                  • Nov 2014
                  • 7916

                  #563
                  Originally posted by Pierre View Post
                  NO. Roughness has a scale. It is not rough or not rough. Look at the Artisan dwellings writing for instance.
                  I'm not saying there aren't degrees of roughness.

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                  • John G
                    Commissioner
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 4919

                    #564
                    [QUOTE=Pierre;394861]
                    Originally posted by John G View Post

                    It can´t be just an opinion. I wish it was.
                    So who else shares the same opinion?

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                    • Pierre
                      Inactive
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 4407

                      #565
                      [QUOTE=David Orsam;394854]

                      But firstly, as I've suggested, he wouldn't have cared if the writing was a bit blurred or not (especially as it was inevitable it would be).
                      What you postulate is a careless killer.

                      No. That is not what we see here. Working in detail on the victims, on the eylids of Eddowes for instance, and then being careless. That is not a good hypothesis.

                      Secondly, I'm suggesting that all walls would have created a blurring effect because the only suitable surface for chalk is a smooth surface like a blackboard and there weren't many of those around that night in Whitechapel.
                      "All" walls, for which you have no data. And note that I am talking about surfaces. The Artisan dwellings writing was not blurred at all.

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                      • Pierre
                        Inactive
                        • Sep 2015
                        • 4407

                        #566
                        [QUOTE=John G;394862]
                        Originally posted by Pierre View Post

                        By "clearly understood" I'm not referring to the meaning. I simply mean the words could be clearly read, so the choice of wall served its functional purpose.
                        How is Juwes/Juews/Jews "clearly read"?

                        And that is the only key word.
                        Last edited by Pierre; 10-07-2016, 02:43 PM.

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                        • Pierre
                          Inactive
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 4407

                          #567
                          [QUOTE=John G;394864]
                          Originally posted by Pierre View Post

                          So who else shares the same opinion?
                          Why should that mean anything to me?

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                          • Pierre
                            Inactive
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 4407

                            #568
                            Originally posted by David Orsam View Post
                            I'm not saying there aren't degrees of roughness.
                            And therfore also very low degrees and no roughness.

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                            • John G
                              Commissioner
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 4919

                              #569
                              [QUOTE=Pierre;394865]
                              Originally posted by David Orsam View Post



                              What you postulate is a careless killer.

                              No. That is not what we see here. Working in detail on the victims, on the eylids of Eddowes for instance, and then being careless. That is not a good hypothesis.



                              "All" walls, for which you have no data. And note that I am talking about surfaces. The Artisan dwellings writing was not blurred at all.
                              Why would he be careless? The writing, if not the meaning of the writing, could be clearly understood. The wall's purpose was merely functional, and it served its function.

                              Quot erat demonstrandum.

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                              • John G
                                Commissioner
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 4919

                                #570
                                [QUOTE=Pierre;394867]
                                Originally posted by John G View Post

                                Why should that mean anything to me?
                                Sorry, I misunderstood your post...I'm also feeling tired! I should have said you have provided no scientific proof to support your assertion...In fact, you haven't even presented a hypothesis. It therefore remains your opinion.

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