Where was Jack the Ripper's payment? How much did Mary Jane Kelly charge?

[Rosella]

Yes, Hutch, or Abberline, were probably cleaning up the language a bit in the police statement!

[MysterySinger]

Yes she may well have said something like that in this scenario.

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

The wholly imaginary George Hutchinson said that Kelly asked if she could borrow sixpence.

Not the sort of language you'd expect a prostitute [if indeed she was one] to use at 2.00 am in Commercial Street.

I would have been far more inclined to believe the story had Kelly said, "Hello, George, fancy a quick shag back at my place? Only a tanner."

Regards,

Simon

[MysterySinger]

Maybe Hutch was after a "favour" from Kelly and she wanted to charge him sixpence.

[GUT]

I'm one who sees a stalking killer as a real possibility.

But either way, why wouldn't the killer just take whatever money the victim had, regardless of the source.

If he was a client,me may even taken some perverse pleasure in using the same coin/s over and over with each victim.

[Azarna]

He could have killed them before the payment stage.

Other than for MJK, time was surely very much of the essence. He may have struck the moment he felt it was safe to do so, ie in a suitable location.

If he took the money back after death then this was significantly increasing the risk of being caught.

Just a thought.

[Rosella]

I've always assumed that the woman would get the money before she and the client got to grips, so to speak; that would be as soon as they got to a dark spot, wall, yard etc he would hand the money over.

I think Jack may well have given them the money over first, but then proceeded to attack them when they were conveniently in position. I presume he would have popped his sixpence on Mary Kelly's hand when they got in her room.

After all, none of the victims, including Tabram, were found with as much as a farthing on them. Annie Chapman's pockets had been rifled and her brass rings were gone, so I'd say it's almost certain Jack robbed his victims after killing them.

[Damaso Marte]

I've never found this to be a tricky question...I always assumed that if the killer paid his victims, he took the money back after murdering them

Of course, the Ripper could have been an ambush killer. I don't think he was, but there's no evidence either way.

[Paddy]

Money Up Front?

If Hutchinson did see Mary with the Whitechapel Murderer and did hear him say "You will be alright for what I've told you", this sounds like a financial deal going on. This would mean he didn't pay her untill they got back to her room or was maybe having it on tick? Would that be normal?

Pat.....

[Abby Normal]

1. Where was Jack the Ripper's payment?
2. How much did Mary Jane Kelly charge?

1. Jack the Ripper apparently makes transactions with five prostitutes at different times. Prostitution would seem to require payment in advance, or else we are led to believe Polly Nicholls & the other ladies worked on good faith. There is no money found at the crime scenes.

2. Mary Jane Kelly is brothel-trained. She is young, which could be a ,,sexual virtual,, in of itself. She sings for her client, and she sings for an hour. She can provide a ,,comfortable,, environment without worry or interruption of a constable. She can provide a bed rather than the damp wall of a dark alley. A client could ,, lounge,, by a fire with a pot of beer. Compare to Polly Nicholls, who may charge a 4s doss rate for an alley encounter, Mary Jane Kelly might be inclined to charge a brothel rate.

Hi Robert
I would imagine the ripper, gave the victims money up front, carefully watched where they put it, and then took it back after he killed them.

and yes MK probably charged more.

[Robert St Devil]

1. Where was Jack the Ripper's payment?
2. How much did Mary Jane Kelly charge?

1. Jack the Ripper apparently makes transactions with five prostitutes at different times. Prostitution would seem to require payment in advance, or else we are led to believe Polly Nicholls & the other ladies worked on good faith. There is no money found at the crime scenes.

2. Mary Jane Kelly is brothel-trained. She is young, which could be a ,,sexual virtual,, in of itself. She sings for her client, and she sings for an hour. She can provide a ,,comfortable,, environment without worry or interruption of a constable. She can provide a bed rather than the damp wall of a dark alley. A client could ,, lounge,, by a fire with a pot of beer. Compare to Polly Nicholls, who may charge a 4s doss rate for an alley encounter, Mary Jane Kelly might be inclined to charge a brothel rate.