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chris17th August 2007, 12:00 PM
John George Littlechild
1861:
North Brink, Wisbech, Cambs
Head: John Littlechild (Widower) aged 52 born Duxford, Cambs - Brewer's blacksmith
Children:
Hester aged 22 born Herts
Emma aged 16 born Royston
John G aged 13 born Royston
Thomas aged 11 born Royston
Niece:
Emma Bennett aged 12 born Royston
1871:
47 Horseferry Road, Westminster
Head: John G Littlechild aged 23 born Royston, Cambs - Detective Officer M.P.
Wife: Susan A Littlechild aged 21 born Little Hempston, Devon
Child:
Annie P aged 6 months born Westminster
Sister in Law:
Fanny Brewer aged 12 born Little Hempston, Devon
1881:
6 Winchester Terrace, Westminster
Head: John G Littlechild aged 33 born Royston, Cambs - Inspector Met Police
Wife: Susan A Littlechild aged 31 born Hempston, Devon
Children:
Annie P aged 10 born Notting Hill
Ada E aged 9 born Westminster
Florence L aged 3 born Westminster
1891:
13 Royal Road, Clapham
Head: John George Littlechild aged 43 born Royston, Herts - Chief Inspr. Metropolitan Police
Wife: Susan Ann Littlechild aged 41 born Little Hempston, Devon
Children:
Annie Palmer aged 20 born Kensington - Telegraph Clerk GPO
Ada Elizabeth aged 19 born Westminster - Dressmaker
Florence Louise aged 13 born Westminster
Gertrude Frances aged 6 born Clapham
1901:
8 The Chase, Clapham
Head: John George Littlechild aged 53 born Royston, Herts - Police confidential inquiry agent
Wife: Susan Ann Littlechild aged 51 born Little Hempston, Devon
Children:
Ada Elizabeth aged 29 born Westminster - Clerk
Florence Louise aged 23 born Westminster
Gertrude Frances aged 16 born Clapham
Marion Gladys aged 8 born Clapham
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Sam Flynn17th August 2007, 09:37 PM
Emma aged 16 born Royston
John G aged 13 born Royston
Thomas aged 11 born Royston
Why were they all these "Littlechildren" christened "Royston" before, presumably, later changing their names?
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Graham17th August 2007, 09:52 PM
Why were they all these "Littlechildren" christened "Royston" before, presumably, later changing their names?
Better than having a handle like 'Dressmaker' (Jewish, plainly) or 'Clapham'.
By the way, business took me to Merthyr again yesterday. Brilliant. I watched the shimmer in the air from the heating-duct outlet of the Hoover factory, and caught the mass indifference of the populace to the Valley Burger Bar offering double fries with a Jumbo bacon-buttie. Yes, I'm paid for all this, too.
And I guess that your translation of 'Tafarnaubach' as 'little inns' must wing its way back to toga-toting times and 'tabernae'.
Cheers,
Graham, see.
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Sam Flynn17th August 2007, 10:27 PM
And I guess that your translation of 'Tafarnaubach' as 'little inns' must wing its way back to toga-toting times and 'tabernae'.
Hiya butt!
Indeed, you're right about the etymology of "tafarnau", pronounced (I'm sure you know) not as "taff-arn-awe", but "tav-arn-eye" - not a million miles from "tabernae". There's a large Latin legacy still evident in Welsh nouns, such as:
cadair - cathedra - chair
ffenestr - fenestra - window
llyfr - liber - book
cwrw - cervisia - beer
eglwys - ecclesia - church
braich - bracchium - arm
gwydr - vitrum - glass
cleddyf - gladius - sword
preseb - praesepe - manger
cwer - cera - wax
carchar - carcer - prison
cadwyn - catena - chain
One of my favourites is:
ysgwydd - scutum - shoulder
This is an echo of the Dark Ages, and appears at least as far back as poetry dated to the 7th Century. The Old Welsh "ysgwyd" [shield] came from the Latin "scutum" but, by association with the body part over which the shield was slung, became over time simply the word for "shoulder"!
(Sorry, Chris, for going O/T there!!!)
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pearlyanna18th August 2007, 05:09 PM
Just to extend a little on an excellent post by Chris
John George Litlechild married Mary Ann Palmer 5 Oct 1833 Reed Herts
From the 1841 & 51 census they also had 3 other children
Elizabeth Palmer Littlechild born 1834 Reed Herts
Kezia Littlechild born Barkway Herts
Daniel Littlechild born 1841 Royston Herts
It seems Daniel travelled around a lot, 1861 hes inn Warwickshire, 1870 he marries Louisa Jane Cooper in Northampton, 1871 hes in Lancashire.
On the 1881 Census
Daniel Littlechild ,Head, born 1841 Royston, City Police Constable
Louisa Littlechild, Wife, bon 1850 London Middx
Alice Rallings, Lodger, born 1857, london Middz, servant formerly
John G Rallings, Lodger, born 1861, Edmonton Middx, Coach painter
Mary A Pritlove, Lodger, born 1845, Bristol, Boot machinist
Living at 5 Clifton St, Shoreditch
Also 1881 Census
Rebekah Rallings, Head, wid, age 38 born Royston, formerly wheelwrights wife
Clara Rallings, Dau, age 7 born Royston, Scholar
Alfred Rallings, son, age 6, born Royston, Scholar
Thomas C Rallings, son, age 1 , born Royston
John Littlechild, Boarder, age 73, born Duxford, Camb. Formerly Blackmith
Ernest Baker, Lodger, age 16, born Chishill. Cabinet makers apprentice
Living London Rd, Royston, Herts.
John Litttlechild snrs daughter Elizabeth Palmer Littlechild married John Stemmers Rallings in the Jun Q 1859 Islington, while I can find no direct link with the Rallings living with the Littlechilds from Elizabeths and the Royston connection I would think that both families if not related knew each other
well.
In 1901 Daniel Littlechild , age 60, born Royston, City of london Polica Pensioner, living Wood Green
I had not previously known that Littlechild had an elder brother in the police force and I would think it was Daniel who followed John into the force and not the other way round.
I would very much like to know what Daniel status was in 1891 ,I dont have access to the details,was he promoted, retired or just still a constable living in the shadow of his youger brother, if someone could take a look it would be much appreciated.
Hope this is of interest to someone
Anna
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robert18th August 2007, 08:27 PM
Hi Anna
He was transcribed by Ancestry as Daniel Little Child.
87 Finsbury Pavement, City of London
Daniel Littlechild, 50, Police Constable, City of London, night duty, b. Royston Cambs
Wife, Pauline, 56, b. Staffs Wolverhampton
Robert
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pearlyanna18th August 2007, 10:08 PM
Thank you Robert, much appreciated
Anna
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chris17th August 2007, 12:00 PM
John George Littlechild
1861:
North Brink, Wisbech, Cambs
Head: John Littlechild (Widower) aged 52 born Duxford, Cambs - Brewer's blacksmith
Children:
Hester aged 22 born Herts
Emma aged 16 born Royston
John G aged 13 born Royston
Thomas aged 11 born Royston
Niece:
Emma Bennett aged 12 born Royston
1871:
47 Horseferry Road, Westminster
Head: John G Littlechild aged 23 born Royston, Cambs - Detective Officer M.P.
Wife: Susan A Littlechild aged 21 born Little Hempston, Devon
Child:
Annie P aged 6 months born Westminster
Sister in Law:
Fanny Brewer aged 12 born Little Hempston, Devon
1881:
6 Winchester Terrace, Westminster
Head: John G Littlechild aged 33 born Royston, Cambs - Inspector Met Police
Wife: Susan A Littlechild aged 31 born Hempston, Devon
Children:
Annie P aged 10 born Notting Hill
Ada E aged 9 born Westminster
Florence L aged 3 born Westminster
1891:
13 Royal Road, Clapham
Head: John George Littlechild aged 43 born Royston, Herts - Chief Inspr. Metropolitan Police
Wife: Susan Ann Littlechild aged 41 born Little Hempston, Devon
Children:
Annie Palmer aged 20 born Kensington - Telegraph Clerk GPO
Ada Elizabeth aged 19 born Westminster - Dressmaker
Florence Louise aged 13 born Westminster
Gertrude Frances aged 6 born Clapham
1901:
8 The Chase, Clapham
Head: John George Littlechild aged 53 born Royston, Herts - Police confidential inquiry agent
Wife: Susan Ann Littlechild aged 51 born Little Hempston, Devon
Children:
Ada Elizabeth aged 29 born Westminster - Clerk
Florence Louise aged 23 born Westminster
Gertrude Frances aged 16 born Clapham
Marion Gladys aged 8 born Clapham
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Sam Flynn17th August 2007, 09:37 PM
Emma aged 16 born Royston
John G aged 13 born Royston
Thomas aged 11 born Royston
Why were they all these "Littlechildren" christened "Royston" before, presumably, later changing their names?
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Graham17th August 2007, 09:52 PM
Why were they all these "Littlechildren" christened "Royston" before, presumably, later changing their names?
Better than having a handle like 'Dressmaker' (Jewish, plainly) or 'Clapham'.
By the way, business took me to Merthyr again yesterday. Brilliant. I watched the shimmer in the air from the heating-duct outlet of the Hoover factory, and caught the mass indifference of the populace to the Valley Burger Bar offering double fries with a Jumbo bacon-buttie. Yes, I'm paid for all this, too.
And I guess that your translation of 'Tafarnaubach' as 'little inns' must wing its way back to toga-toting times and 'tabernae'.
Cheers,
Graham, see.
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Sam Flynn17th August 2007, 10:27 PM
And I guess that your translation of 'Tafarnaubach' as 'little inns' must wing its way back to toga-toting times and 'tabernae'.
Hiya butt!
Indeed, you're right about the etymology of "tafarnau", pronounced (I'm sure you know) not as "taff-arn-awe", but "tav-arn-eye" - not a million miles from "tabernae". There's a large Latin legacy still evident in Welsh nouns, such as:
cadair - cathedra - chair
ffenestr - fenestra - window
llyfr - liber - book
cwrw - cervisia - beer
eglwys - ecclesia - church
braich - bracchium - arm
gwydr - vitrum - glass
cleddyf - gladius - sword
preseb - praesepe - manger
cwer - cera - wax
carchar - carcer - prison
cadwyn - catena - chain
One of my favourites is:
ysgwydd - scutum - shoulder
This is an echo of the Dark Ages, and appears at least as far back as poetry dated to the 7th Century. The Old Welsh "ysgwyd" [shield] came from the Latin "scutum" but, by association with the body part over which the shield was slung, became over time simply the word for "shoulder"!
(Sorry, Chris, for going O/T there!!!)
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pearlyanna18th August 2007, 05:09 PM
Just to extend a little on an excellent post by Chris
John George Litlechild married Mary Ann Palmer 5 Oct 1833 Reed Herts
From the 1841 & 51 census they also had 3 other children
Elizabeth Palmer Littlechild born 1834 Reed Herts
Kezia Littlechild born Barkway Herts
Daniel Littlechild born 1841 Royston Herts
It seems Daniel travelled around a lot, 1861 hes inn Warwickshire, 1870 he marries Louisa Jane Cooper in Northampton, 1871 hes in Lancashire.
On the 1881 Census
Daniel Littlechild ,Head, born 1841 Royston, City Police Constable
Louisa Littlechild, Wife, bon 1850 London Middx
Alice Rallings, Lodger, born 1857, london Middz, servant formerly
John G Rallings, Lodger, born 1861, Edmonton Middx, Coach painter
Mary A Pritlove, Lodger, born 1845, Bristol, Boot machinist
Living at 5 Clifton St, Shoreditch
Also 1881 Census
Rebekah Rallings, Head, wid, age 38 born Royston, formerly wheelwrights wife
Clara Rallings, Dau, age 7 born Royston, Scholar
Alfred Rallings, son, age 6, born Royston, Scholar
Thomas C Rallings, son, age 1 , born Royston
John Littlechild, Boarder, age 73, born Duxford, Camb. Formerly Blackmith
Ernest Baker, Lodger, age 16, born Chishill. Cabinet makers apprentice
Living London Rd, Royston, Herts.
John Litttlechild snrs daughter Elizabeth Palmer Littlechild married John Stemmers Rallings in the Jun Q 1859 Islington, while I can find no direct link with the Rallings living with the Littlechilds from Elizabeths and the Royston connection I would think that both families if not related knew each other
well.
In 1901 Daniel Littlechild , age 60, born Royston, City of london Polica Pensioner, living Wood Green
I had not previously known that Littlechild had an elder brother in the police force and I would think it was Daniel who followed John into the force and not the other way round.
I would very much like to know what Daniel status was in 1891 ,I dont have access to the details,was he promoted, retired or just still a constable living in the shadow of his youger brother, if someone could take a look it would be much appreciated.
Hope this is of interest to someone
Anna
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robert18th August 2007, 08:27 PM
Hi Anna
He was transcribed by Ancestry as Daniel Little Child.
87 Finsbury Pavement, City of London
Daniel Littlechild, 50, Police Constable, City of London, night duty, b. Royston Cambs
Wife, Pauline, 56, b. Staffs Wolverhampton
Robert
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pearlyanna18th August 2007, 10:08 PM
Thank you Robert, much appreciated
Anna
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