Swanson's notes on Stride's murder

[Hamrammr]

I was pressed for time today but did get a new photo of the scribble. It probably won't reveal anything more, but might be worth using brightness/contrast on it. Shame the last few lines are illegible. Although I was whizzing through I did notice a couple of things that I found interesting. Here are the links:

New image of scribble: http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...pshhezpkpx.jpg

Odd use of Lewin and Lawende when referring to the same witness, but the first use of 'Lewin' is not struck through whereas subsequent uses are. Odd. http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...pspbobzgsb.jpg

Mention of the writing on the wall at Goulston Street: http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...psczwwiyme.jpg

and: http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...psz8mpztwm.jpg

Report of advice to use decoys (officers dressed as women): http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...psb0v5gcmi.jpg

Report of advice to use 'cat.' Presumably a cat o' nine tails (whip): http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...psfyldimdu.jpg

Mention of a 'Packer' claiming the ripper was his cousin. Presumably this isn't the grocer Matthew Packer, or he'd have mentioned it in his statements to the press and police: http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...pstria3hiu.jpg

Hope these are of some interest!

Dean

[I Am Sam]

I was able to translate all of the important parts.

It says: :"The murderer was seen at 1:35. After the Kelly murder, he was captured and made a full confession. Everything he said was consistent with the evidence. His name was (unreadable on this copy). I left the full report including the full signed confession at (again unreadable). This also includes a photo of Mary Kelly taken 2 weeks before her death.His family have also provided evidence that cannot be doubted. We had to keep the killer's identity a secret and deny we solved the case because (unreadable again). "

Boy, it sure said a lot, didn't it?

[Hamrammr]

Having a problem with the links above, so will try this way:

[Hamrammr]

[Pandora]

[QUOTE=Hamrammr;371620]



Here's my attempt on the new image you got. I think the first paragraph is as we thought, but the 2nd paragraph still evades me.

[Errata]

This may be stupid, but do we know what it says on the page opposite the scribbling? Because if I were writing in the margins, I would write next to the thing I was writing about. And that may give us extra context clues.

[Hunter]

Hi folks,

One little minor thing. The marginal notes in Chief Inspector Swanson's Oct. 19 report were not written by Swanson. It is understood that they were written by Permanent Under Secretary Godfrey Lushington.

[Wickerman]

This may be stupid, but do we know what it says on the page opposite the scribbling? Because if I were writing in the margins, I would write next to the thing I was writing about. And that may give us extra context clues.

Hi Errata.

If you can read this, you can see what the scribble is written opposite..

[Wickerman]

So the first four lines appear to have been resolved?

1 - This is said to have been
2 - at 1.35 : by that time
3 - the woman had been certainly
4 - murdered.

Line 5 looks to me like:
5 - If the time 1.35 is correct the

Then line 6:
6 - woman was xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Errata]

Hi Errata.

If you can read this, you can see what the scribble is written opposite..

yeah it's the Lawende or Levin story. Identifying the clothes of Eddowes, the guy talking to her. And that for purposes of comparison the guy looked more like what Schwartz described that who the PC described. And that Stride's murder had no motive.

In other words, it say about what you'd expect it to say across from a note with the notation of 1:35 in it. Curses.

[Howard Brown]

28th post on the thread

http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?p=290188#post290188

[Pcdunn]

Solved!

28th post on the thread

http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread....188#post290188

Interesting. It's a good thing for the witness that the comment was scribbled out once the reference became clearer.

[Hamrammr]

Excellent. This the post from CGP on the jtrforums. Makes sense and fits with what I had:

This is said to have been
at 1.35 : by that time
the woman had been certainly
murdered.

If therefore 1.35 is correct the
woman seen could not have
[been] the murdered woman.

[Hamrammr]

And thanks to everyone for your help! If I find any more oddities/puzzles like this I'll share.

[The Station Cat]

What is interesting about all Swamson's notes in the margins of the various books and may have been overlooked? Is it does suggest that the fact that the theory that the police knew who the ripper was and hushed it up for whatever reason? Would appear to have no credence otherwise why would Swanson make such notes, if you see what I mean?