What did Scotland Yard do with the piece of apron from C.Eddowes?

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  • Bridewell
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    Police & Evidence

    Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
    Well after 124 years would you really expect it to survive (especially as JtR was just another dead case for forty years or so) ?

    Furthermore, if it were in City Police possession, then with the Blitz, there's every reason to understand why it might've perished!

    What would it've told us anyway? Fingerprints? (Oh yeah? Whose?) Contact DNA? What, after 124 years of cross-contamination? (Note, that's not Lechmere-contamination )...

    All the best

    Dave
    Exactly so, Dave. The police service has enough to contend with in safeguarding exhibits relevant to current investigations, without attempting to find room for those related to a murder enquiry from well over a century ago.

    The previous poster may like to consider that much of the material we do still have survives only as a result of the diligence of former police officers such as Don Rumbelow and Stewart Evans.

    Regards, Bridewell.

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  • Cogidubnus
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    The bloody napron

    Well after 124 years would you really expect it to survive (especially as JtR was just another dead case for forty years or so) ?

    Furthermore, if it were in City Police possession, then with the Blitz, there's every reason to understand why it might've perished!

    What would it've told us anyway? Fingerprints? (Oh yeah? Whose?) Contact DNA? What, after 124 years of cross-contamination? (Note, that's not Lechmere-contamination )...

    All the best

    Dave

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  • towboydds
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    Police Normality

    Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi there, NOV9's friend

    The piece of Catherine Eddowes' apron is apparently no longer in the possession of the police, unfortunately. Yes, I know, another lost piece of evidence.

    Chris
    It would seem that with all of the evidence, and paper trail that has been"lost,stolen,misappropriated" that it only shows a typical police force not unlike those seen today. I have found it interesting that this practice of evidence being no longer available goes back century after century, but has always been a source of cover up as well. I guess that would make it the 'Blue Bottle Wall'.

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  • Sister Hyde
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    Anyway, back to topic..
    Why would Scotland yard have the apron, wasn't it City property?
    Well if they did have it, then it becomes a piece of evidence in in a murder case, so it would be more logical that they would have it

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by Bob Hinton View Post
    ....you should have expected a board rubber off the 'noggin!
    Can you imagine them getting away with that today?
    We had this teacher, Mrs Andrews, who had small pieces of mirror glued onto the back of the 'wings' on her glasses. She'd be facing the blackboard one second then spin around and hurle that blasted thing clean across the room, didn't care if she missed.
    Those wooden blackboard erasers made for heavy missiles..

    (then she'd expect the poor victim to bring it back to her, like sure Miss, so you can hurle it again!!!,... my names Tucker not sucker!!!)

    Anyway, back to topic..
    Why would Scotland yard have the apron, wasn't it City property?

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  • Sister Hyde
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    Originally posted by Bob Hinton View Post
    But if you weren't expecting it you obviously were not paying attention to what the teacher was doing - which means that in reality you should have expected a board rubber off the 'noggin!
    ahahah yes, i was just bored of studying the exact same programs and exact same books year after year after year... the french national education is lousy on that field, it changed when i finally reached university and decided what i wanted to study myself

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  • Bob Hinton
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    Interesting

    Originally posted by Sister Hyde View Post
    well i took enough of these in the head to know that it's very unpleasant, especially when you're not expecting it. but it still makes me laugh to see it happen to others.
    But if you weren't expecting it you obviously were not paying attention to what the teacher was doing - which means that in reality you should have expected a board rubber off the 'noggin!

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  • Monty
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    The thread is there of all to see, pravsared it for you, like fly in Amber Adam. Including your spectacular tantrums.

    However, not the place. And besides, my reply was far funnier. I suggest you retire. Your only making a fool of yourself.

    Monty

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  • Adam Went
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    Monty:

    Rubbish. I disappeared for 3 or 4 days after the second test because, you know, one of us actually has a life and things to do.

    We wear our convict ancestry with pride down this way - I have the "Convict Descendant" T-shirt and all. You see, Sister Hyde, back in the mid-1800's when they were shipping all our forefathers out here, they liked it so much that they decided they'd prefer to stay here in Australia and do forced labour than live back in the mother country, thus they stayed on after their sentences had finished.

    Monty repeatedly snipes me for referring back to 2007 to talk up Australia, and yet he constantly refers back to the 1850's (that would be before the Ashes series even existed) in order to snipe me - doesn't really make sense, does it?

    Cheers,
    Adam.

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  • Sister Hyde
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    yeah it was really off-subject, but i always notice thread changing with sports. i'm dead tired, Morpheus you old pervy here I come!

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  • Monty
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    Ah, the sadism of school days.

    This is woefully off thread. I shall now retire.

    Monty

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  • Sister Hyde
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    well i took enough of these in the head to know that it's very unpleasant, especially when you're not expecting it. but it still makes me laugh to see it happen to others.

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  • Monty
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    You make it sound like its a bad thing.

    Monty

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  • Sister Hyde
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    I fear you might be the kind of teacher who throws eraser from the blackboard in the head of his students...I'm not sure

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  • Monty
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    That was before I entered your world.

    Now its time to take you back to school.

    Monty

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