Leaving one's beat

[Elamarna]

Thanks Frank. I've you looked at the Stanford Maps from 1872? The search feature's a bit limited, so I'm struggling to find relevant locations. Nonetheless, looks like another excellent resource: http://london1872.com/stanford37.htm

Hi John,

Didnt have this one so great.
It shows Bakers Row as such in 1872, so still not clear how church street becomes Church Row, again possible misreporting.
.

And additionally no sign of a Campbell Street, so josh is probably correct it was a mistake by the reporter.


Steve

[Joshua Rogan]

Actually, on that map Hanbury Street appears to be referred to as Brown's Lane, Montugue Street and Preston Street.

And the Preston St section seems to have changed to Well St, before the whole thing became Hanbury St. No wonder there are press reports complaining about all the street name changes!

[Joshua Rogan]

The pity Frank is that what is Bakers Row in 1888 is not named

On the 1872 map just posted by John G, Baker's Row is named as such, so doesn't seem like this was ever Church Row.

[John G]

I'v had a look at it now - good find & thanks for sharing, John!

No problem, Frank. Just found it by accident after doing a general search!

[John G]

Actually, on that map Hanbury Street appears to be referred to as Brown's Lane, Montugue Street and Preston Street.

[FrankO]

Thanks Frank. I've you looked at the Stanford Maps from 1872? The search feature's a bit limited, so I'm struggling to find relevant locations. Nonetheless, looks like another excellent resource: http://london1872.com/stanford37.htm

I'v had a look at it now - good find & thanks for sharing, John!

[John G]

Thanks Frank. I've you looked at the Stanford Maps from 1872? The search feature's a bit limited, so I'm struggling to find relevant locations. Nonetheless, looks like another excellent resource: http://london1872.com/stanford37.htm

[FrankO]

Charles Booth's Poverty Map is an excellent geographical resource of the period: https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/14/-0.1174/51.5064/100/0

Booth's map also appears on the link that I use:

http://www.oldmapsonline.org/map/britishlibrary/004890779

[Elamarna]

I have no doubt about that, John, but the eastern end of Hanbury Street was also called Church Street before 1888. Here's a map of 1873:

The pity Frank is that what is Bakers Row in 1888 is not named


Steve

[John G]

Thanks, John. I have a deluxe full set of Booth maps in "wall-chart" format, but that search feature is really handy. Ideal for browsing! (I never knew, until now, that there used to be a smallpox hospital on the site of today's Royal Free in Hampstead.)

The Booth deluxe street maps must be quite impressive, Gareth. I've noticed you can purchase the maps in poster format quite cheaply, but the quality appears to be mediocre.

I also find the search feature useful, although I've noticed that it's based on current place names, so if you want to find Berner Street, for example, you need to search for Henriques Street!

[Elamarna]

Goad Vol XI sheet 324-1 names the eastern end as "Hanbury St (late Church St)"

great Joshua,

Paul said "Church Row", so either he used the wrong name, or Row referred to Bakers Row?, may well have been a local name rather that official.


steve

[FrankO]

Goad Vol XI sheet 324-1 names the eastern end as "Hanbury St (late Church St)"

Thanks, Joshua!

[FrankO]

Church Street was in between Hanbury Street and Flower and Dean Street: https://booth.lse.ac.uk/map/16/-0.07...033.0,181900.0

I have no doubt about that, John, but the eastern end of Hanbury Street was also called Church Street before 1888. Here's a map of 1873:

[Elamarna]

Since I'm looking at Goad maps, Vol XI sheet 312-1 shows a stable block and storage shed for carts and vans in Corbet's Court, which is where Paul was said to have worked as a carman.

Good find Joshua, so it could be that he did work at Covent Garden after all.

all good stuff


steve

[Joshua Rogan]

Since I'm looking at Goad maps, Vol XI sheet 312-1 shows a stable block and storage shed for carts and vans in Corbet's Court, which is where Paul was said to have worked as a carman.