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Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View PostDid Mizen actually go to Buck's Row on his own initiative, or was he fetched? In his own testimony he says that he went to the spot and saw PC Neil. But Neil testimony says "seeing another constable in Baker's-Row, witness dispatched him for the ambulance"....Did they meet half way? Or did Mizen only move when Neil appeared nearby?
Good spot Joshua. There is more to it than that involved, Neil did not as far as we know go far from the body, just across the road to the North side if we take his evidence as accurate.
It is so tempting to jump in now and give my take, but I shall not just yet.
Steve
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Originally posted by John G View PostNot according to PC Mizen's evidence. Anyway, was Baker's Row within the parameters of his beat? What was he doing even approaching the area?
The Western side of Bakers Row was Mizen's the Eastern side was Neil's..
His route went along the western side to Whitechapel Road.
Steve
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Originally posted by Elamarna View PostJohn
The Western side of Bakers Row was Mizen's the Eastern side was Neil's..
His route went along the western side to Whitechapel Road.
Steve
Thanks, that's clearly very significant. However, it still implies that PC Mizen stopped the important responsibility of knocking people up in order to wander off in the direction of PC Neil's beat. The salient question, of course, is why?Last edited by John G; 08-09-2017, 10:28 AM.
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Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View PostDid Mizen actually go to Buck's Row on his own initiative, or was he fetched? In his own testimony he says that he went to the spot and saw PC Neil. But Neil testimony says "seeing another constable in Baker's-Row, witness dispatched him for the ambulance"....Did they meet half way? Or did Mizen only move when Neil appeared nearby?
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Originally posted by John G View PostExactly! And what prompted him to head towards Baker's Row?
steveLast edited by Elamarna; 08-09-2017, 10:46 AM.
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Originally posted by David Orsam View PostEither Mizen continued knocking up or he didn't. If he continued knocking up, what was he doing in Baker's Row being spotted by Neil? If he didn't then what made him stop?
David
Good questions.
We cannot know if he stopped knocking up or not, he says he did. and of course he is not knocking up every house is he?
He comes out of Old Montague street according to Paul and Neil. we have two options do we not, either he is working clockwise or counter clockwise.
If Clockwise, Bakers row is the next part of his beat.
I fear I am going to have my hand forced here before I am ready.
steve
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Originally posted by Elamarna View PostJohn, he is already in bakers row, both Paul and Lechmere report him as coming out of old Montague street, this formed a junction with Hanbury and Bakers Row.
steveLast edited by John G; 08-09-2017, 10:50 AM.
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Originally posted by David Orsam View PostEither Mizen continued knocking up or he didn't. If he continued knocking up, what was he doing in Baker's Row being spotted by Neil? If he didn't then what made him stop?
Perhaps Neil meant White's Row, or that he saw the PC coming from the Baker's Row end?
Edit...I see this has already been mentioned.
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I wish that we could all be in a room with a map! I'm hopeless at directions so I'm struggling with this. I'm reluctant to ask because they will probably be stupid questions!
I know. It's never stopped you before, I can hear you sayRegards
Sir Herlock Sholmes.
“A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”
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Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View PostI don't think it's possible to see as far as Baker's Row from the murder scene due to the slight curve of the road.
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