PC Amos Simpson

[MrBarnett]

Hi All,

Still no mention of Sergeant 24Y.

Regards,

Simon

There was, but you missed it. Not something Abberline would have done.

MrB

[GUT]

Hi,

Henry Joseph Simpson died in 1943. He had married Bessie Emma Stearns, sister to Morris William, in 1907. Her death was reigstered in the Saffron Walden District in 1968. In the 1911 Census they were living in Cheshunt, Middlesex with no children listed as then living. The Birth Indexes list the mother's maiden name from September quarter 1911 onwards, but none are registered to a Simpson-Stearns pairing.

There's a website detailing the Stearns family;

G'day Nashwan

Useful first post.

Welcome to casebook.

[nashwan]

Great job Panderoona ,

What became of Amos's Son Henry .. is it possible he had a daughter and named her after his sister ?

cheers , moonbegger

Hi,

Henry Joseph Simpson died in 1943. He had married Bessie Emma Stearns, sister to Morris William, in 1907. Her death was reigstered in the Saffron Walden District in 1968. In the 1911 Census they were living in Cheshunt, Middlesex with no children listed as then living. The Birth Indexes list the mother's maiden name from September quarter 1911 onwards, but none are registered to a Simpson-Stearns pairing.

There's a website detailing the Stearns family;

Morris William STEARNS was born on 2 Jun 1881 in Acton, Suffolk, England. He was baptised on 14 Aug 1881 in Acton, Suffolk, England. He was buried in 1916 in

Guillemont Road Military Cemetery, France. He died on 13 Sep 1916 in France. He was a Farmer. Parents: William STEARNS and Ellen Harriet WOODGATE.
He was married to Ellen SIMPSON on 23 Jul 1902 in Sudbury, Suffolk, England. Children were: James Morris SIMPSON, Beatrice STEARNS, Joe STEARNS, Amy Alma Bessie

STEARNS, Violet Ellen Elizabeth STEARNS.

www.historyofsuffolk.co.uk

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

Still no mention of Sergeant 24Y.

Regards,

Simon

[moonbegger]

Great job Panderoona ,

What became of Amos's Son Henry .. is it possible he had a daughter and named her after his sister ?

cheers , moonbegger

[Panderoona]

Marriage Index 1902
Ellen Simpson
Morris William Stearns
Sudbury Sfk registration district

[Panderoona]

1901 Barrow Hill, Acton Sfk
Amos Simpson 1847 Acton Retd Met Police
Jane 1848 Bourton Glos
Ellen 1881 St Pancras

Few doors away from
William Stearns
Ellen H Stearns
Morris W Stearns 1882 Acton
And other children.

1911 Census Barrow Hill Acton Sfk
Ames Simpson 64 Met Police pensioner, 2 children, 2 living married 36 yr.
Jane Simpson 63 wife
Ellen Stearns 30 5 children all alive
Morris Stearns b.1882 Horseman on farm, Acton married 9 yrs
James Maurice Stearns 9
Beatrice Stearns 7
Joseph Stearns 6
Alma Amy Stearns 5
Violet Stearns 2

[Panderoona]

1891 Cheshunt Herts
Amos 44 b. Acton
Jane 43 Burton on the water, Glos
Henry J 15 St Pancras
Ellen 10 St Pancras

doesnt appear to be any other children, thats for sure.

[Panderoona]

John Simpson b.1817 Nayland Sfk
Mary Simpson b.1822 parents of
Amos Simpson b.1847 Acton Sfk
1851 Acton Sfk age 4
1861 Acton Sfk age 14
July 1874 Marriage to Jane Wilkins
Jane b.1848 Bourton Glos
1881 Pancras London age 34
Children Henry b.1878 and Ellen b.1881 (1 month)

[MrBarnett]

Hi All,

Poor old Sergeant 24Y must be feeling left out by now.

Regards,

Simon

Simon,

Surely he was the man who gave Simpson the OK to take the shawl in the first place.

MrB

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

Poor old Sergeant 24Y must be feeling left out by now.

Regards,

Simon

[Robert]

Hi Moon

I'm glad I stopped you wasting your time on it. I myself have been saved from wasting time when someone has told me that I was on the wrong track. It's an occupational hazard. Never mind, because the Lawende discovery was extremely interesting.

[moonbegger]

Hi Moon

No middle name. She died as Ellen Stearns in 1952.

Think I am deaf in my left ear due to that bubble bursting

An Ellen G Simpson living a few doors away from Lawende's address , along with the tale of an old Ex Copper seemed to good to be true ..

Thanks for nipping that one in the bud Robert ..

I'll get my coat

Moonbegger

[Robert]

Hi Moon

No middle name. She died as Ellen Stearns in 1952.

[Amanda]

Only Ellen...

Hello Robert ,

Two world wars ?? My Nans sister is also on the same poll using her maiden name even though she was married .. Do we know if Ellen had a middle name ?

cheers

moonbegger ..

Hi,
No, Ellen didn't have a middle name. In 1911 the whole family (incl Amos) are living in Barrow Hill, Suffolk.

I'll keep digging later & see if I can trace Ellen's children.
Amanda