Pinchin Street - Police reinforcements

[Hdivision]

Hi,
I have just added a trio of Metropolitan Police medals to my collection, and the Met Police orders show the recipient was posted to Whitechapel as Pc 572H on 14/9/1889 for just one month, then returned to his own Division.
I realise his posting was four days after the torso was discovered in Pinchin St, and I have been told James Monro requested 100 men to assist with the enquiry, does anyone have any further information on these Whitechapel reinforcements between 14/09/1889 and 11/10/1889?

Any info much appreciated, Jon

[Monty]

Jon,

What medals are they and do you have a name?

I may be able to help. If youd rather, mail or PM me.

Monty

[Hdivision]

Thanks Monty, he was PC William John Pile and was awarded the 1897 Jubilee, and both 1902 and 1911 Coronations. They are all to him on N Division, but I know he was seconded to Whitechapel between the dates mentioned. He joined the Met in 1887.

[Monty]

Thanks Jon,

I find it odd he was given a 'H' number if only with Whitechapel from Islington for a month.

Anyhoos, let me have a root around and I'll get back to you.

Monty

[Hdivision]

I agree it does seem strange, perhaps it was just to cross the t's and dot the i's for the Police Orders, and he may never have actually worn them on his uniform, keeping his 385N number.

[Monty]

Hi Jon,

Has a good look through my stuff and found bugger all, sorry.

However all may not be lost. Email me and Ill explain.

Cheers
Monty


PS Fantastic Cole photo by the way.

[Hdivision]

Monty, I don't see the email icon on anybody elses thread, so am unable to send emails?
Sorry only joined this week, perhaps I'm doing something wrong?
Jon

[Monty]

Jon,

Just blank mail me on Monty_42@hotmail.com.

I'll respond.

Monty

[Hdivision]

email sent, thanks again

[MrBarnett]

This seems worth bumping up at this point.

Was it ever resolved, or is it an example of a secondment from N to H going unrecorded?

MrB

[The Station Cat]

Hi,
I have just added a trio of Metropolitan Police medals to my collection, and the Met Police orders show the recipient was posted to Whitechapel as Pc 572H on 14/9/1889 for just one month, then returned to his own Division.
I realise his posting was four days after the torso was discovered in Pinchin St, and I have been told James Monro requested 100 men to assist with the enquiry, does anyone have any further information on these Whitechapel reinforcements between 14/09/1889 and 11/10/1889?

Any info much appreciated, Jon

How does one go about viewing Met Police orders? Do you need the name of the officer in question or is it done by date?


Did you ever undercover any other information about police reinforcements?

[David Orsam]

Police Orders for 14 September 1889 do indeed record the transfer of William Pile (constable, 3rd class) from 385N to 572H. He, along with, by my quick count, 100 other constables transferred on that date to H division from various divisions, were to report to the principal station within H division at 10am on 16 September.

[David Orsam]

How does one go about viewing Met Police orders? Do you need the name of the officer in question or is it done by date?

They are done by date, being issued every day apart from Sundays.

[The Station Cat]

Police Orders for 14 September 1889 do indeed record the transfer of William Pile (constable, 3rd class) from 385N to 572H. He, along with, by my quick count, 100 other constables transferred on that date to H division from various divisions, were to report to the principal station within H division at 10am on 16 September.

David, how are you viewing this? The reason I ask is, that it would be very interesting to ascertain all the names of bobby's who were transfered to H Division, due to the Ripper. A little retirement project for myself

Does anyone happen to know when the first and last batches of reinforcements was sent, just to narrow it down a little for me.......

[David Orsam]

David, how are you viewing this? The reason I ask is, that it would be very interesting to ascertain all the names of bobby's who were transfered to H Division, due to the Ripper. A little retirement project for myself

I was just looking at a copy of the Police Orders for 1889 held at the National Archives.