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  • Simon Wood
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 5552

    #1

    Female Detectives

    Hi All,

    Can anybody throw any light on this 1891 interview with a female detective?

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    Simon
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.
  • Phil Carter
    Commissioner
    • Oct 2009
    • 4270

    #2
    Hello Simon,

    This is very interesting...I wonder, can you tell us any more ?

    best wishes

    Phil
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    • Tom_Wescott
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 7001

      #3
      Yes. In the 1930's or 1940's there was a write-up on one inparticular. I also read of female cops being used to debunk false mediums. And I believe the Vigilance Committee also employed some...no doubt Le Grand's women.

      Yours truly,

      Tom Wescott

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      • Simon Wood
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 5552

        #4
        Hi Phil,

        Yes, there is some more, and it's quite fascinating.

        I'll post it as soon as possible.

        regards.

        Simon
        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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        • SimonLMoore
          Cadet
          • Sep 2014
          • 5

          #5
          Sorry to open up an ancient thread but I am extremely interested to hear any more details on this, were these Home Office police women paid and employed purely as observers or did they have limited powers of arrest? Very very interesting indeed.

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          • Simon Wood
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 5552

            #6
            Hi Simon L Moore,

            Thanks for reopening this thread.

            Here's the second part of the article, from the Bruce Herald [NZ], 16th January 1891.

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            Simon
            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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            • Monty
              Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 5414

              #7
              Police Matrons Simon,

              Employed by the police and courts to look after female and child prisoners.

              The ticket of leave women, would be monitors by female clerks at Scotland Yard. They had no powers, but had to monitor those on license.

              Monty
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              • SimonLMoore
                Cadet
                • Sep 2014
                • 5

                #8
                Thanks Monty! So a somewhat hyperbolic use of the term 'police' by the person writing the article, very interesting. Presumably this system had been in place a few years before the article was written in 1891?

                And thanks Simon, very interesting indeed to read on.
                Last edited by SimonLMoore; 07-07-2015, 09:27 AM.

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                • Monty
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 5414

                  #9
                  Yes Simon,

                  Kinda misleading terms used in the article.

                  I think I put 1870s in my book on the subject, I shall have to read it now.

                  Monty
                  Monty

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                  • Bridewell
                    Commissioner
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 4039

                    #10
                    Police matrons were still used in the late 1970's in Nottinghamshire, perhaps even into the early 1980's. By that time there were a good number of female police officers (though not as many as there are now). The employment of matrons to supervise female detainees allowed the female cops to remain out on patrol.
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                    • GUT
                      Commissioner
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 7841

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
                      Police matrons were still used in the late 1970's in Nottinghamshire, perhaps even into the early 1980's. By that time there were a good number of female police officers (though not as many as there are now). The employment of matrons to supervise female detainees allowed the female cops to remain out on patrol.
                      I will go a step further in regional areas in Australia (not sure about England because you don't have the distance issues) they still are.

                      Often it is the wife of the officer in a small one policeman town, when the nearest female office may be an hour or more away.
                      G U T

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