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  • PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1
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    Originally posted by Al Bundy's Eyes View Post
    https://journals.openedition.org/chs/1141?lang=en
    Interesting article that's relevant to the discussion of Jewish police officers and also crime within the Jewish community.

    I agree.

    I cited the same study twice in my # 426 in A photograph of Joseph Lawende in 1899.


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  • Al Bundy's Eyes
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    Introduction London before the First World War possessed a substantial minority population. The riverside districts were noted for their exotic mixture of seafarers, travellers and settlers. There ...

    Interesting article that's relevant to the discussion of Jewish police officers and also crime within the Jewish community.

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  • PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1
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    Originally posted by DJA View Post
    Doubt Jack the Ripper was an Australian Jew

    We don't know that Brown was Australian, but I think somehow he would not have been able to conceal a Polish accent and there seems to be no record of that.

    His British Army files record his religion as Church of England, which suggests that he was a plausible Englishman or Australian, even if he came from somewhere else.

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  • DJA
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    Doubt Jack the Ripper was an Australian Jew

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  • PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1
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    Originally posted by halomanuk View Post
    And it would explain the trust from the girls on the street and the fact he could get away without being seen every time.

    It would also explain the sound of footsteps that 'might have been from a policeman ' on the morning of Mary Kelly being discovered,leaving Millers Court.

    And,he lived on his own so he had nobody to answer to with his 'trophies' and his suicide on 29th November coincides with the end of the Ripper murders.
    Maybe this also explains why the Jews were less than forthcoming with any information also - a jewish policeman murderer.
    The Army also could have screwed up his mind before he even became a policeman.

    Very very interesting and it fits....

    Yes.

    This explains everything - or almost everything.

    Now all that needs to be explained is:

    Why Macnaghten knew of a Jewish suspect named Kosminski but not of a Jewish suspect named Brown.

    Why Anderson thought the murderer was not an Australian Jew but a Polish Jew.

    Why Swanson thought Kosminski was the suspect when it was really Brown.

    Why Macnaghten's or Sagar's Pc witness, on seeing a Jewish suspect, did not realise that the suspect was also a Pc, and why Macnaghten and Sagar were unaware of it.

    Why it is so obvious that Brown was the Whitechapel Murderer that no-one thought of it at the time.

    Last edited by PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1; 04-07-2023, 10:07 PM.

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  • PC2267
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    Interesting & thought provoking theory!! Curious about the police whistle being heard prior to death, assume no whistle was found on his person? I'd also like to learn more about the footsteps that sounded like that of a policeman being heard walking away from Miller Court. Who said this? I'd always assumed that Miller Court being so close to Spitalfields market and the Ten Bells etc that there'd have been people coming and going at all hours of the day and night?

    Something that I hadn't thought of until learning about PC Brown, is I have an 1887 medal to a PC from C Division, he served in J Division between the 10th August 1888 and 15th August 1890, he died on duty as part of E Division in May 1892. Could he have been Jack......

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  • Howard Brown
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    Hmmm.... "institutionalized anti-Semitism...."

    In the Jewish Chronicle of 29 December 1888, reporting belatedly on the inquest it was stated that "It transpired that Sir Charles Warren had shown him great kindness and the deceased became very depressed when the resignation of the late Chief Commissioner [of the Metropolitan Police] was announced."

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  • The Good Michael
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    As I recall, he had no family except for an uncle, or a cousin with whom he'd had dinner a few nights before he killed himself. The relative said that he was upset about something.

    Cheers,

    Mike

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  • halomanuk
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    And it would explain the trust from the girls on the street and the fact he could get away without being seen every time.

    It would also explain the sound of footsteps that 'might have been from a policeman ' on the morning of Mary Kelly being discovered,leaving Millers Court.

    And,he lived on his own so he had nobody to answer to with his 'trophies' and his suicide on 29th November coincides with the end of the Ripper murders.
    Maybe this also explains why the Jews were less than forthcoming with any information also - a jewish policeman murderer.
    The Army also could have screwed up his mind before he even became a policeman.

    Very very interesting and it fits....

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  • The Good Michael
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    Brown was in the area and not too far away when compared with Druitt. He also fits the ages given by Lawende and Schwartz.

    Cheers,

    Mike

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  • halomanuk
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    Was Brown in the area for each of the murders ?

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  • The Good Michael
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    Wow! He was a Jew. I always assumed he was Irish because of his surname. I guess that it was derivative of Braun or a longer surname with the 'Braun' prefix.

    I also didn't know that he was a soldier so recently.

    Why does Druitt have so much interest, but not Brown? What is missing from this suicide?

    Cheers,

    Mike

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  • halomanuk
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    Thats an interesting but sad article there.

    He seemed a very lonely and unhappy man.
    You never know what goes through peoples minds to make them do something like that,especially with the Ripper murders supposedly still in full swing.

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  • Chris
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    Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
    In the Jewish Chronicle of 29 December 1888, reporting belatedly on the inquest it was stated that "It transpired that Sir Charles Warren had shown him great kindness and the deceased became very depressed when the resignation of the late Chief Commissioner [of the Metropolitan Police] was announced."
    Here's the whole report, in case it's of interest. It actually appeared on 23 November 1888.

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  • Chris George
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    Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, Brown's failure to report for duty was the same evening Kelly's murder saga begins. Brown was not a Whitechapel constable, but it has been surmised that he could have been reassigned to the East End for temporary duty.

    Cheers,

    Mike
    Hello Mike

    Yes that is what I assume might have occurred. Direct proof that P.C. Brown was assigned to patrol in the Whitechapel - Spitalfields area during the period of the murders is, however, so far elusive.

    Chris

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