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The Possible Murder of Georgina Byrne
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Originally posted by John G View PostOkay, but I doubt Victorian etiquette would not have allowed a woman of refinement to go out dancing by herself, i.e. unchaperoned.
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Originally posted by John G View PostOkay, but I doubt Victorian etiquette would not have allowed a woman of refinement to go out dancing by herself, i.e. unchaperoned.
A respectable woman could not have gone dancing alone, to a club alone (if such things existed them and I suspect they did but don't know for sure) been out walking alone or unchaperoned in the company of a man at 11 p.m. without her reputation being ruined.
That's mostly the point here. Had she lived and anyone had learned of her little adventure, she would have been ruined.
curiousLast edited by curious; 09-03-2017, 01:04 PM.
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Originally posted by John G View PostHi Curious,
Yes, that's possible. But then who was the other well-dressed man? And considering the fact she was married, and Victorian probity being what it was, is it likely that she would have remained in his company- and in public? Wouldn't there be the possibility of a major scandal if they were seen by someone who knew them? And if it was all perfectly innocent, why did the man disappear?
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Originally posted by curious View PostI know, John. I spoke first and read the fine print later, too. Because the clippings were difficult to read, I skipped over the additions because of my eyesight. Then had to go back and re-read everything.
Human frailty.
I still think she had been dancing, probably with top-hat guy and he was either seeing her to her hotel or train station, perhaps even all the way over to her sister's place in Chelsea when she collapsed.
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Yes, that's possible. But then who was the other well-dressed man? And considering the fact she was married, and Victorian probity being what it was, is it likely that she would have remained in his company- and in public? Wouldn't there be the possibility of a major scandal if they were seen by someone who knew them? And if it was all perfectly innocent, why did the man disappear?
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Originally posted by David Orsam View PostMy dear boy, your extraordinary intellect has, I see, once again been put to incredible use in answering your own questions, with answers of such insight that I don't think they could have occurred to any other human being, let alone any other member of this forum.
Thank you, my dear boy, for solving the entire mystery surrounding Georgina Byrne's death.
In those days the journalists loved to call everything a "Mystery".
Donīt forget that.
The so called "Mystery" in this case is a heart failure, something the journalists knew nothing about when it happened, combined with the statement about the "husband", another unexplained event when it happened.
You, on the other hand, have confused this simple little case of natural death and an opportunity for theft in the past with the specific and complex murders in 1888-1889.
The confusion is strange, and you have posted your thread about the little case in the section for
Police Officials and Procedures.
Discussion of the various police matters involved in the Jack the Ripper Investigation.
which led me to think that you had been drinking, my dear Oscar.
But obviously not from my bottle.
Cheers, PierreLast edited by Pierre; 09-03-2017, 12:06 PM.
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Originally posted by John G View PostAh, having read further, which is what I should have probably done in the first place, see the complexity in this case now: why would a mugger/robber be dressed in "gentlemanly" fashion?
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Originally posted by John G View PostAh, having read further, which is what I should have probably done in the first place, see the complexity in this case now: why would a mugger/robber be dressed in "gentlemanly" fashion?
Human frailty.
I still think she had been dancing, probably with top-hat guy and he was either seeing her to her hotel or train station, perhaps even all the way over to her sister's place in Chelsea when she collapsed.
curiousLast edited by curious; 09-03-2017, 11:51 AM.
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Originally posted by Pierre View PostOK, so no reply from you.
Then, having been drinking the bottle of MNWR, I will answer the questions for you.
Because he had taken it from Mrs Byrne.
Because it belonged to Mrs Byrne.
Because that was an explanation as to why he had the parcel in his possession when the police showed up.
Because that was the method, i.e. lying, to get away from the site.
Because he used a lie to get away from the site.
Because he had lied to get away from the site.
Yes, Oscar?
And the bottle of MNWR is cheap and it is easy to use. Mr Nelson was right.
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My dear boy, your extraordinary intellect has, I see, once again been put to incredible use in answering your own questions, with answers of such insight that I don't think they could have occurred to any other human being, let alone any other member of this forum.
Thank you, my dear boy, for solving the entire mystery surrounding Georgina Byrne's death.
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