PC Thain's beat

[GUT]

Sorry, I can't remember who originally posted this.

Neil's looks short compared to Thain's or am I missing something?

[drstrange169]

Sorry, I can't remember who originally posted this.

[Monty]

Beats were divided in to two, day and night.

They were measured with a beat wheel and whilst not exactly matching, they endeavoured that the distances were roughly the same.

This resulted in a beat of roughly 30 mins in London, longer in the suburbs.

30 mins beat were commonly patrolled in the day. These were divided at night into two 15 mins beats.

Obviously timings were not exact, due to distance differations and incidents or duties which may occur on the beat.

Hope that helps.

Monty

[DJA]

Meh. Done the figures on Jack's walk home from the London Hospital along Hanbury Street to Finsbury Square many times. ~ 2 Km.

Not sure what held him up on Thursday nights.

Have a few ideas though.

[Elamarna]

Agree with 17 minutes actually. Thought I was giving ground.

Living in the Aussie bush,pretty used to walking speeds.

Local store is 350 away. When smoking I'd enjoy the landscape and take 7 minutes. Easily do it in 5.

Nearest Pub was ~ 16 Km. Used to do that in 2H40m without pushing it.

Depends.

thanks Dave, got worried for a minute that i had made some awful mistake on my pages of calculations.


steve

[DJA]

what walking speed are you using for that Dave ?

I am of the understanding that the day walking pace was 2.5mph approx and the night speed 3mph.

at 3 mph thats 88 yards per minute, so I make it nearly 17 minutes, not 23. just wonder if i am making a mistake somewhere?

steve

Agree with 17 minutes actually. Thought I was giving ground.

Living in the Aussie bush,pretty used to walking speeds.

Local store is 350 away. When smoking I'd enjoy the landscape and take 7 minutes. Easily do it in 5.

Nearest Pub was ~ 16 Km. Used to do that in 2H40m without pushing it.

Depends.

[Elamarna]

Don't ask me ..... it's 3.26 am and I'm sipping Port

Um.... yep. 9 beats,5 constables.

good for you.

i am on cider in pub

steve

[Elamarna]

23 minutes.1467 yards.

what walking speed are you using for that Dave ?

I am of the understanding that the day walking pace was 2.5mph approx and the night speed 3mph.

at 3 mph thats 88 yards per minute, so I make it nearly 17 minutes, not 23. just wonder if i am making a mistake somewhere?

steve

[DJA]

Don't ask me ..... it's 3.26 am and I'm sipping Port

Um.... yep. 9 beats,5 constables.

[Elamarna]

is it possible that not all internal streets were done on every circuit of the beat?

steve

[DJA]

23 minutes.1467 yards.

[Elamarna]

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch...ol11/pp101-103

http://www.casebook.org/press_reports/echo/18880921.html?printer=true

Google Earth would be handy to map out the distances.

Thanks Dave,

Found an older map which showed bottom end of Cambridge heath as Dog Row.

The maps i use at

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=51.5235&lon=-0.0596&layers=163&b=1

have a measuring tool which i have checked and it seems accurate, This gives

The external distance with out the many interior roads is around 4400 feet that’s 1467 yards.

The internal measures more than the external, I am getting figures of near to 1800 yards, there may be ways of minimizing return walks down both sides of roads, but it not obvious how from the layout.
At the standard police rate of 3mph, that gives a beat over 37minutes, just wonder if that is unheard of, i guess Monty may have the answer.


Steve

[DJA]

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/middx/vol11/pp101-103

http://www.casebook.org/press_reports/echo/18880921.html?printer=true

Google Earth would be handy to map out the distances.

[Elamarna]

looking at the beat it looks very long, certainly over 35minutes at normal walking speed, did this happen aty all, i assumed most were either 15 or 30 minutes.
Any comments?

steve

[Elamarna]

solved it!

looks as if it was the old name for the sothern end of Cambridge heath road.

steve