1891 census BETHNAL GREEN POLICE STATION

[The Station Cat]

Sgt Arthur HALL
PC Charles SLY
PC Richard HAIGTER
PC George MERIDETH
PC William RUSSELL
PC Tom ANDREWS
PC John ALLEN
PC David DANIELS
PC Josepeh THOMPSON
PC Martin M DONALD
PC Charles PERBERTON
PC Robert ELLICOTT
PC Charles PLUMLEY

[The Station Cat]

Interesting how so few bobbies where stationed there?

[The Station Cat]

I had intended to try and marry this up with the 1881 census, but I don't seem to be able it find it (458 Bethnal Green Road). I've done a little digging and confirmed that the station was an operation station as early as 1868?

[Sam Flynn]

Interesting how so few bobbies where stationed there?

Are these the ones who were lived/lodged at the station, or would there have been others with homes of their own?

I'm interested, as I spent the first 9 years of my life in a police-house umbilically attached to a small police station.

[Robert]

Hi SC

You mustn't expect that everyone who was in the division slept at the police station. It was only compulsory for prisoners.

For 1881, just search for Sophia Quigley.

PS Haven't you missed out Gerald Ashman from 1891?

[Robert]

OK Gareth, what were you in for?

[The Station Cat]

Hi SC

You mustn't expect that everyone who was in the division slept at the police station. It was only compulsory for prisoners.

For 1881, just search for Sophia Quigley.

PS Haven't you missed out Gerald Ashman from 1891?

Working from the 1891 census that there were only 13 bobbies living in the station, perhaps the same amount again living locally/section house(s).
26+ constables or their abouts attached to the station.
Working 3 8 hour shifts - days,lates & nights (more on duty on lates and nights, but shorter beats than during the day) roles being on the beat, fixed point in the station (on reserve). Roughly 20 bobbies on duty at any one time, with perhaps 12-15 on the beat. Beats ranging from right outside the station to perhaps 20 or so minuted walk from the station. All would parade at the station then be escorted to their beats by the shift sergeant.

[The Station Cat]

Hi SC


For 1881, just search for Sophia Quigley.

PS Haven't you missed out Gerald Ashman from 1891?

Can't see Gerald ASHMAN on the census, where does he fit into it?

Can't find Sophia QUIGLEY either?

Additional Officers I have come across, who must have lived married quarters or certainly living elsewhere.

Insp John SPRATLING 18, Gore Road, Bethnal Green.

Sgt Henry KERBY

DS George GODLEY

PC97J NEIL
PC96J THANE
PC143J GORDON
PC173J MURPHY
PC121J CHAPPELL
PC223J DANIELS

[The Station Cat]

With so few bobbies actually stationed at Bethnal Green it is surprising that more aren't mentioned by name. There are numerous officers just refered to as 'a constable', in the case of Poly NICHOLS their names lost forever to history. It stands to reason that some of the ones listed about must have been involved in this capacity, but are now just recorded as `a constable`.

[Robert]

SC, for some reason I cannot post images on Casebook. PM me your email and I'll send them to you.

[Robert]

Sent them, SC.

[The Station Cat]

1881 census for Bethnal Green police station...........


PS Arthur HALL
PC Charles SLY
PC Richard HAYTON
PC George MEREDETH
PC William RUSSELL
PC Tom ANDREWS
PC John ALLEN
PC David DANIELS
PC Jospeph THOMPSON
PC Martin McDONALD
PC Gerald AINMAN
PC Charles PERBURTON
PC Ralph ELLICOTT
PC Charles PLUMLEY

[The Station Cat]

All but two names appear on both censuses.....

PS Arthur HALL 81/91
PC Charles SLY 81/91
PC George MEREDITH 81/91
PC William RUSSELL 81/91
PC Tom ANDREWS 81/91
PC John ALLEN 81/91
PC David DANIELS 81/91
PC Jospeph THOMPSON 81/91
PC Martin McDONALD 81/91
PC Charles PERBURTON 81/91
PC Ralph ELLICOTT 81/91
PC Charles PLUMLEY 81/91

.....and yet done of them are documented as being involved in the Ripper case and yet it is well documented that THANE was sent to Bethnal Green station to get more officers, by the law of averages some of these `constables` must have been those listed above?

[DJA]

Either Census will list police actually at the station.

Does not matter if they reside there or not.

Being out on patrol is another matter and depends on the rules of the particular Census.

[The Station Cat]

Either Census will list police actually at the station.

Does not matter if they reside there or not.

Being out on patrol is another matter and depends on the rules of the particular Census.

Interesting, so your suggesting that these officers, may only be the ones physically in the station at the time at the census (not necessarily resident within the station)? That the ones out on patrol may not have been recorded?

Did that not run the risk of them being recorded twice (at home and at work) or indeed not at all?