How Are The Mighty Fallen

[Ally]

Hi Don,

While I agree with your assessment that Begg makes more of it than Martin himself does, I think it context that Martin was clearly applying it to Anderson. In addition, I may be wrong and someone can please correct me if I have gotten this incorrect, but I believe he elaborated on it in the podcast that he did and confirmed that because of Anderson's convictions, he would not have aggrandized himself in his writings.

[Jeff Leahy]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Martin's very public statements that it is absolutely beyond doubt that Kosminski/Cohen was the Ripper. No wiggle room left whatsoever in these statements made on broadcast television in 1888 as part of 'The Secret Identity of Jack the Ripper'.

Yours truly, Tom Wescott
P.S. I miss Paul's mullet.

Blimey we are in total agreement again? people will talk

[Jeff Leahy]

Can you please name the HISTORIANS who agree with Martin Fido on his assessment of Anderson"s character ?

CAN YOU PLEASE NAME THE HISTORIANS WHO DONT AGREE WITH MARTIN FIDO ON HIS ASSESSMENT OF CHARACTER>>>AND WHY?

[Ally]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Martin's very public statements that it is absolutely beyond doubt that Kosminski/Cohen was the Ripper. No wiggle room left whatsoever in these statements made on broadcast television in 1888 as part of 'The Secret Identity of Jack the Ripper'.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

P.S. I miss Paul's mullet.

That may be because people are hesitant to berate Martin here over his every error, because they are well aware that he is being used as the cudgel by the Begg-Leahy dipshit duo.

I personally have no intention of taking him to task for everything he has ever gotten wrong, when he is merely the tool being used by a tool at the behest of another total tool.

[Natalie Severn]

CAN YOU PLEASE NAME THE HISTORIANS WHO DONT AGREE WITH MARTIN FIDO ON HIS ASSESSMENT OF CHARACTER>>>AND WHY?

How tiresome this is.Dont get your knickers in a twist.I thought you claimed he had impressed a number of historians with his assessment of Anderson?
So the actual answer is you know of none?
Thankyou.

[Ally]

LOL...norma, we're trying to have a rational argument with a guy who can't even get a metaphor established properly. He can't even get the facts in his examples right. How could it be anything BUT tiresome?

This is why I advocate mocking. And limericks.

[Jeff Leahy]

How tiresome this is.Dont get your knickers in a twist.I thought you claimed he had impressed a number of historians with his assessment of Anderson?
So the actual answer is you know of none?
Thankyou.

What I know is irrelevant I'm just a humble student like yourself.

BEGG: “Fido’s conclusion has been questioned and doubted and even ridiculed, but sad to say, I have yet to see anyone challenge the assessment on which it was based.’

It is this statement that I am citing, And as yet no one has produced anything to contradict it? The ball is in your court.

Pirate

[Stephen Thomas]

God, what a boring discussion.

The 'good book' is right.

All is vanity and vexation of spirit.

[Jeff Leahy]

LOL...norma, we're trying to have a rational argument with a guy who can't even get a metaphor established properly. He can't even get the facts in his examples right. How could it be anything BUT tiresome?

This is why I advocate mocking. And limericks.

You mean if ignorance doesnt work try blind ignorance?

Only Ally Ryder could have come up with that logic?

Ally has clearly lost the argument and is resorting to 'white noise' much like her prose.

Pirate

[Ally]

God, what a boring discussion.

You think this argument is boring to read? You should try being in it.

[Ally]

You mean if ignorance doesnt work try blind ignorance?

Only Ally Ryder could have come up with that logic?

Pirate

Yeah the kind of ignorance that attempts to link Galileo as being challenged on the world being round.

[Jeff Leahy]

Yeah the kind of ignorance that attempts to link Galileo as being challenged on the world being round.

No the kind of ignorance that reduces everything to personal abuse.

To be honest I'm rather surprised you haven't stormed off in a huff by now. Its what you usually do when you've run out of a defense and logic .

You must hold the world record for saying the most words without saying anything..

Pirate

[Ally]

The precise reason I am not storming off in a huff dear boy is because of precisely that line of "logic".

In the past, when people get fed up with trying to explain something simple to someone as terminally stupid as you are, and they finally give it up, you claim some sort of idiotic victory as if outlasting someone through sheer stupidity is an achievement.

So I thought I'd take a page from your book, eschew reason altogether, and keep on pointing out to you over and over again, what an absolute stupid bottom feeder you are.

I would start by recommending you read a fifth grade science book. Or a fifth grade history book. Both deal with Galileo.

[Jeff Leahy]

The precise reason I am not storming off in a huff dear boy is because of precisely that line of "logic".

In the past, when people get fed up with trying to explain something simple to someone as terminally stupid as you are, they finally give it up, you claim some sort of idiotic victory as if outlasting someone through sheer stupidity is an achievement.

So I thought I'd take a page from your book and keep on pointing out to you over and over again, what an absolute stupid bottom feeder you are.

I would start by recommending you read a fifth grade science book. Or a fifth grade history book. Both deal with Galileo.

It's easier to see the stars if you remove the plank from your own eye.

and you still havnt addressed Begg's question? Not that its important to someone like you, but we wouldn't wont the thread going off topic?

[Ally]

I have addressed Begg's question. If Begg has any further questions, he can come on here and ask them himself.