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  • Stewart P Evans
    Superintendent
    • Apr 2008
    • 2994

    #241
    Fact

    Originally posted by Pirate Jack View Post
    ...
    Over the years one gets a feeling that some sources are better informed and more reliable than others.
    PAUL BEGGS information is the best and why I take considerable time and care when working on a project to ask his learned opinion.
    I therefore presume that if he has stated, he has the balance correct on Anderson, that as always, he is probably correct.
    Pirate...
    Are you stating your own opinion here, or a fact? If it is a fact please state why it is.
    SPE

    Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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    • Tom_Wescott
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 6996

      #242
      Originally posted by Pirate Jack
      PAUL BEGGS information is the best
      He has different information than the rest of us?

      Yours truly,

      Tom Wescott

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      • Jeff Leahy
        Assistant Commissioner
        • Mar 2008
        • 3740

        #243
        There is nothing to forgive Simon. You are a gentleman Sor!

        There is always going to be disagreements about ‘balance’.

        Norma is making claims which she is entitled to do, but if she gets facts incorrect then old dogs like Begg are going to spot them a mile off. And that does nothing for how her arguments are perceived in general.

        As you well know Begg is no ones fool on the subject.

        I am generally in agreement that Anderson is indeed a complex character to consider.

        And I claim to be no expert. Until someone comes up with something more convincing however I don’t see that he lied about JtR. He may have got it wrong, yes. But I don’t buy conspiracies.

        Always good to read your comments however, and many thanks hopefully we shall meet one day.

        Pirate
        Last edited by Jeff Leahy; 04-09-2010, 08:13 PM.

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        • Stewart P Evans
          Superintendent
          • Apr 2008
          • 2994

          #244
          A Lie

          Originally posted by Pirate Jack View Post
          ..
          And I claim to be no expert. Until someone comes up with something more convincing however I don’t see that he lied about JtR. He may have got it wrong, yes. But I don’t by conspiracies.
          ...
          Pirate
          A lie isn't a conspiracy.
          SPE

          Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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          • Jeff Leahy
            Assistant Commissioner
            • Mar 2008
            • 3740

            #245
            Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
            He has different information than the rest of us?

            Yours truly,

            Tom Wescott
            No, he proves reliable, as with the Gurney and Laid episode. But that is my opinion.

            That doesn't mean that there arnt other authorities that I take great score by, Stewart included. Indeed your good self on Strides murder.

            Pirate

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            • Jeff Leahy
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Mar 2008
              • 3740

              #246
              Originally posted by Stewart P Evans View Post
              A lie isn't a conspiracy.
              That would depend what context someone placed it in.

              Pirate

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              • Tom_Wescott
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 6996

                #247
                Originally posted by Pirate Jack
                if she gets facts incorrect then old dogs like Begg are going to spot them a mile off.
                You mean to say he's reading the boards as we speak? Then by all means, why doesn't he join in and set us straight with his superior information? I can only take so much from these novices like Evans. It's time to hear from a real expert.

                Yours truly,

                Tom Wescott

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                • Natalie Severn
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 4863

                  #248
                  Originally posted by Pirate Jack View Post
                  There is nothing to forgive Simon. You are a gentleman Sor!

                  There is always going to be disagreements about ‘balance’.

                  Norma is making claims which she is entitled to do, but if she gets facts incorrect then old dogs like Begg are going to spot them a mile off. And that does nothing for how her arguments are perceived in general.

                  As you well know Begg is no ones fool on the subject.

                  I am generally in agreement that Anderson is indeed a complex character to consider.

                  And I claim to be no expert. Until someone comes up with something more convincing however I don’t see that he lied about JtR. He may have got it wrong, yes. But I don’t by conspiracies.

                  Always good to read your comments however, and many thanks hopefully we shall meet one day.

                  Pirate



                  What facts did I get wrong?

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                  • Jeff Leahy
                    Assistant Commissioner
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 3740

                    #249
                    Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
                    What facts did I get wrong?
                    Anderson never called a 'press conference'.

                    Pirate

                    PS I think Paul does check the boards from time to time. I see him fairly regularly.

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                    • Ally
                      WWotW
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 2554

                      #250
                      LOL...well of course he checks the boards regularly. Jeff just admitted. Paul spots the mistakes, then he passes the info to Jeff to mouthpiece it for him...as evidenced right there above.

                      At least they are no longer pretending it isn't happening.

                      Let all Oz be agreed;
                      I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                      • Natalie Severn
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 4863

                        #251
                        Nit picker!

                        Originally posted by Pirate Jack View Post
                        Anderson never called a 'press conference'.

                        Pirate

                        PS I think Paul does check the boards from time to time. I see him fairly regularly.

                        How pathetic!Well I believe it was calling a press conference because the moment Anderson went public with his astonishing " confession" that he had lied in The Times articles his house in Linden Gardens was surrounded by a swarm of Journalists! He then allowed himself to be " interviewed by one of them. After this news of his lies was spread from agency to agency and became World News! If that isnt calling out the Press then what is.....?
                        Last edited by Natalie Severn; 04-09-2010, 08:52 PM.

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                        • Tom_Wescott
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 6996

                          #252
                          Originally posted by Ally
                          LOL...well of course he checks the boards regularly. Jeff just admitted. Paul spots the mistakes, then he passes the info to Jeff to mouthpiece it for him...as evidenced right there above.

                          At least they are no longer pretending it isn't happening.
                          Parrot Jack?

                          Yours truly,

                          Tom Wescott

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                          • Jeff Leahy
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 3740

                            #253
                            Originally posted by Ally View Post
                            LOL...well of course he checks the boards regularly. Jeff just admitted. Paul spots the mistakes, then he passes the info to Jeff to mouthpiece it for him...as evidenced right there above.

                            At least they are no longer pretending it isn't happening.
                            Are you claiming that Anderson did call a press conference?

                            I thought you guys were into FACTS.

                            However if Stewart wished to debate his claims out in the open, and on camera. That is something that I am happy to provide for you all.

                            So the ball now is back in the anti-Anderson camp

                            Do you want to discuss this in open or behind closed doors?

                            Jeff Leahy
                            Producer/Director
                            Last edited by Jeff Leahy; 04-09-2010, 09:36 PM.

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                            • Tom_Wescott
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 6996

                              #254
                              Hi Jeff. I fail to see how Ally's post in any way, shape or form referenced the 'press conference' debate you're having with Nats. And why should Stewart bother to talk about any of this 'on camera'? He's on a message board for Christ's sake.

                              Yours truly,

                              Tom Wescott

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                              • Jeff Leahy
                                Assistant Commissioner
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 3740

                                #255
                                Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
                                How pathetic!Well I believe it was calling a press conference because the moment Anderson went public with his astonishing " confession" that he had lied in The Times articles his house in Linden Gardens was surrounded by a swarm of Journalists! He then allowed himself to be " interviewed by one of them. After this news of his lies was spread from agency to agency and became World News! If that isnt calling out the Press then what is.....?
                                Calling a press conference Norma is where you get on the phone to journalists a say 'hey I have something to say why dont you all come here and listen'

                                You have been disingenuous with the TRUTH

                                and that is what this is all about. Because I can here the Anti -Anderson squad squarking and I'm hearing NO substance.

                                Lets get it on camera?

                                Pirate

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