How Are The Mighty Fallen

[DVV]

Actually, Anderson wasn't lying.

He was raving.

Amitiés all.

[The Good Michael]

Actually, Anderson wasn't lying.

He was raving.

I might go along with that.

Mike

[caz]

No Caz, you have me wrong...

...So Caz, "parity of information " per suspect doesnt really figure does it .

Nats, I have absolutely no idea how any of your post (snipped in the middle) relates to my little joke about spanking, baby lotion and comfy chairs. Is there something else about Sir Robert (or Paul Begg) that we should know?

And "parity of information" didn't come from my post so why quote it back at me as if it did??

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

...Simon Wood's "track record", which is most notable for his rebuttal against Stephen Knight's theory in the 70's, his invention of the 'FM' on Kelly's wall, which unintentionally shows the Maybrick Diary to be a modern hoax, and more recently for attempting to prove that Tumblety was not a real Ripper suspect...

Well it might have done, Tom, if there had been any mention in the diary of an FM on Kelly's wall. Sadly there isn't so you've been myth-led. Excuthe the lithp.

Back to how are the mighty fallen...

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

I am slowly becoming a Tom Wescott FAN! Caz please whip my bottom!

Since you ask so nicely - I'll see you now, Mr Depp.

Ah, sorry. Wrong pirate. Get in line Jeff, behind Stewart.

Love,

Caz
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[Jeff Leahy]

Arr! a' lick of the cat

[Stewart P Evans]

Not The Case

...
I’m stating as FACT that BEGG has Never claimed Anderson was incapable of LYING.
How do I know this? Well because I asked him directly and got a direct reply.
If you choose not to agree with their assessment that’s up to you.
If you can supply proof that Anderson Lied about his ‘Definitively Ascertained Fact’ then I’m sure we’d all like to see it.
In the mean time the various commentators will continue to look at what Anderson said and draw differing conclusions as to his reliability.
At the moment what you indeed have are DOUBTS AND OBJECTIONS and NO substance.
Perhaps you would like to apologize to Mr Begg now?
PIRATE
PS BEGG: "Monro certainly denied that he had given Anderson permission to write the articles, although he admitted that he may have informally agreed that such a series of articles would be productive, and Anderson himself acknowledged that many matters such as the articles were discussed informally over dinner. So permission probably was given, or Anderson thought it had been, but informally and unofficially."

The below from the A-Z clearly states that there 'seems to be no hard reason for thinking that Anderson was a liar...' but, there has now been plenty of evidence adduced to show this is not the case at all.

[Natalie Severn]

Nats, I have absolutely no idea how any of your post (snipped in the middle) relates to my little joke about spanking, baby lotion and comfy chairs. Is there something else about Sir Robert (or Paul Begg) that we should know?

And "parity of information" didn't come from my post so why quote it back at me as if it did??

Love,

Caz
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Yes , since you ask but mark you this is strictly private Caz:

confidential

Five more things you should know about Sir Robert Anderson:

Sir Robert could spot a sexual maniac specially of a virulent type , from a mile off!

Sir Robert could spot a "low class Polish Jew" specially those who wanted to dodge out of Gentile Justice , without his spectacles on!

Sir Robert could spot a "self abuser", especially a low class Jewish "self abuser" ,from his bathroom window !

Sir Robert could spot a "loathsome creature"-specially one recently arrived from abroad, whenever he set foot in Whitechapel!

And do you know,when Sir Rob and Swanny , went to the loony bin to play "spot the ripper" they spotted him at once engaged in the same unmentionable acts the instant they were confronted with him !

[Stewart P Evans]

And So

Hi All,
Part of a memo from Sir Kenelm Edward Digby [Permanent Under Secretary of State, Home Office] to Charles Thomson Ritchie [Home Secretary], 22nd May 1901—
"About three months ago you requested Mr. Anderson to send in his resignation as Assistant Commissioner of Metropolitan Police. You were led to take this step in consequence of the necessity which in your view had arisen for alteration in the staff and organization of the Metropolitan Police, which made it desirable for a new appointment to be made to the post held by Mr. Anderson. You were particularly conscious that a fresh appointment should be made to the leadership of the Criminal Investigation Department, of a person who should serve for a considerable time under Sir Edward Bradford . . ."
Regards,
Simon

And so we come full circle and return to Simon's initial post. And it seems that Simon's initial header of 'How Are The Mighty Fallen' is not so wide of the mark after all.

For the Police Review states, on Anderson's retirement, that his tenure of office was considered to be characterised by 'comfortable placidity'; his temperament was more suited to his social and religious leanings and not the CID; that he was 'hardly the man to take an active part in fighting the criminal classes of London.' And to be the head of the detectives he lacked 'the requisite kind of knowledge of the world and of men.' In fact he was 'hardly a looked-for choice' on the part of the Home Secretary to be head of the CID.

To my mind this vindicates Simon's heading that has been so severely criticised here. Moreover, why, we must ask, was this revealing, enlightening and important assessment of Anderson abruptly removed from the A-Z and omitted from the 1996 (last) edition? And removed at a time when there was increasing criticism of Anderson.

[Tom_Wescott]

Sir Robert could spot a "self abuser", especially a low class Jewish "self abuser" ,from his bathroom window !

So can Paul Begg...he's neighbors with Jeff Leahy.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Stewart P Evans]

Libel?

So can Paul Begg...he's neighbors with Jeff Leahy.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott

Isn't that libel Tom? No, on second thoughts...

[Tom_Wescott]

Moreover, why, we must ask, was this revealing, enlightening and important assessment of Anderson abruptly removed from the A-Z and omitted from the 1996 (last) edition?

There's only so much space available, and they had to keep room for write-ups on Donald Bell, John Pope de Locksley, and the like.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Stewart P Evans]

Ahhh...

There's only so much space available, and they had to keep room for write-ups on Donald Bell, John Pope de Locksley, and that like.
Yours truly,
Tom Wescott

Ahhh...I thought that might be the reason.

[Natalie Severn]

So can Paul Begg...he's neighbors with Jeff Leahy.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Well spotted Tom! And Paul wont need his spectacles to do so!

[Tom_Wescott]

I don't know, I've heard about the endowment of Englishmen. Begg might need Openshaw's microscope!

Jeff's name backwards is 'He Lay Jeff'. How gay is that?

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott