Images of Abberline

[Fisherman]

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Is anyone able to help with this? I have always taken it that Abberline had an unruly curl of hair to the left side of his forehead but am now unsure as to whether this is the case. Is it hair or a mark/shadow on the wall behind? (The uncertainty is caused by "Mrs Bridewell" who is of the opinion that it's not hair!).

I think we can bank on the artist having used artistic license to leave the ufo out of the picture if it was not Abberline´s hair. Apart from representing an unruly curl of hair, it could only serve as an irritation if it was NOT hair.

You can tell Mrs Bridewell from me that she is wrong. If you want to take it as far as to say that you are thus right, is something you must decide for yourself. You presumably know Mrs Bridewell better than I do.

the best,
Fisherman

[Carol]

Hi Bridewell,

I think your wife is right. It's a late Victorian 'fascinator'. Only men wore them then. The current fashion of using them for women's headgear is relatively new.

Carol

[Bridewell]

I think we can bank on the artist having used artistic license to leave the ufo out of the picture if it was not Abberline´s hair. Apart from representing an unruly curl of hair, it could only serve as an irritation if it was NOT hair.

You can tell Mrs Bridewell from me that she is wrong. If you want to take it as far as to say that you are thus right, is something you must decide for yourself. You presumably know Mrs Bridewell better than I do.

the best,
Fisherman

Many thanks. Her thinking was that, as you can see the outline of his head across that section, it couldn't be hair but, as you say, there would be no point in including in a drawing it if it had no relevance.

I may tell her that I'm right but will need to take a brave pill first.

[Bridewell]

Hi Bridewell,

I think your wife is right. It's a late Victorian 'fascinator'. Only men wore them then. The current fashion of using them for women's headgear is relatively new.

Carol

Thank you for that. I must buy one myself before they go out of fashion.

[Monty]

Many thanks. Her thinking was that, as you can see the outline of his head across that section, it couldn't be hair but, as you say, there would be no point in including in a drawing it if it had no relevance.

I may tell her that I'm right but will need to take a brave pill first.

Its his hair Colin.

Don't ask how I know...yet.

Monty

[Barnaby]

If that is his hair then that is a shoddy artist....or a ridiculous style. Abberline sporting a poodle cut?

[GUT]

If that is his hair then that is a shoddy artist....or a ridiculous style. Abberline sporting a poodle cut?

And if it's not his hair the artist should be shot for extending the shadow that way, it's as bad as a photographer having a tree growing out of a subjects head.

Personally I think it has to be one or the other hair or a continuation of the shadow.

[Phil Carter]

And if it's not his hair the artist should be shot for extending the shadow that way, it's as bad as a photographer having a tree growing out of a subjects head.

Personally I think it has to be one or the other hair or a continuation of the shadow.

Hello GUT,



I just see a continuation of the top of his head and some squiggle above it..unconnected as well. But.. there you go I suppose. If Monty says he has the proof.. we will all just have to wait and see..Because the only way to know for sure is a real bona fida photo of the man. Which may well be Monty's little diamond in his book coming out later this year. If so, well, all well and good! :-)


Phil

[Monty]

Monty says nothing of the sort.

Monty

[Phil Carter]

Monty says nothing of the sort.

Monty

Hello Monty,

That's fine, I wasn't assuming.. just suggesting because of the statement that you knew it was HIS hair, but could not say.

Unless you meant that you knew it was a quiff but could not say, without meaning to imply that it was specifically Abberline's hair you were referring to.

Easy to misunderstand. Apologies if so. :-)


Phil

[Monty]

Actually Phil,

Upon re-reading, I can see why you thought that. So it would be unjust of me not to concede your point and apologise.

Monty

[Phil Carter]

Actually Phil,

Upon re-reading, I can see why you thought that. So it would be unjust of me not to concede your point and apologise.

Monty

No offence even considered nor taken Monty. All square here :-)

Phil

[Paddy]

How about this chap?

This was taken I beleive when Queen Victoria awarded police a medal, not sure of date.
He could have put on a lot of weight??

Pat.........

[Rob Clack]

Can't be Abberline. It is a City of London Police photograph from 1887. I would like to know who he is though as I have another photo with him in it.

Rob

[Simon Wood]

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