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  • lynn cates
    Commisioner
    • Aug 2009
    • 13841

    #91
    nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

    Hello Jeff.

    "this is not a case of the [S]panish [I]nqusition."

    Well, I didn't expect them anyway. After all, their chief element was surprise. (Although there are rumours that they also used fear, ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.)

    "This was about an individual gaining personal 'pleasure' or 'need' from the process of dismembering a corp[se]."

    How do we know this?

    Cheers.
    LC

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    • Jeff Leahy
      Assistant Commissioner
      • Mar 2008
      • 3740

      #92
      Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
      Hello Jeff.

      "this is not a case of the [S]panish [I]nqusition."

      Well, I didn't expect them anyway. After all, their chief element was surprise. (Although there are rumours that they also used fear, ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.)

      "This was about an individual gaining personal 'pleasure' or 'need' from the process of dismembering a corp[se]."

      How do we know this?

      Cheers.
      LC
      By a simple process of eliminating any other possibilities like he was hungry or in need of redecorating his bathroom or the possibility he had a hungry Tiger that only ate human hearts...

      If he was in the process of collecting organ specimin's he did a very poor job indeed...

      If it was left as a warning there are no other similar examples..

      Now answer the question and stop wriggling...

      Please provide other examples of Fenian or IRA activists leaving desmembered corpes around London, or anywhere for that matter.

      Pirate

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      • lynn cates
        Commisioner
        • Aug 2009
        • 13841

        #93
        I'll show you mine if, . . .

        Hello Jeff. It won't do to eliminate. There are more things in heaven and earth. . . .

        So you want a list of Clan-na-Gael (the Fenians had their heyday in the 1860's; the IRA were a 20th c organisation) members who mutilated women? Very well. The time has come for some horse trading. I'll post that list right next to your list of 1880's lust murderers who mutilated women to satisfy themselves.

        Deal?

        Cheers.
        LC

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        • Jeff Leahy
          Assistant Commissioner
          • Mar 2008
          • 3740

          #94
          Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
          Hello Jeff. It won't do to eliminate. There are more things in heaven and earth. . . .

          So you want a list of Clan-na-Gael (the Fenians had their heyday in the 1860's; the IRA were a 20th c organisation) members who mutilated women? Very well. The time has come for some horse trading. I'll post that list right next to your list of 1880's lust murderers who mutilated women to satisfy themselves.

          Deal?

          Cheers.
          LC
          Sounds good to me. Hopefully a list of injuries rather than names.

          Pirate

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          • glyn
            Inactive
            • Jun 2011
            • 41

            #95
            Originally posted by Pirate Jack View Post
            We know from the autopsie report that MJK was
            What i'm asking is do you have examples of religious or political fanatics in particular the Fenians or IRA, ever carrying out this kind to post murder mutilation on a corpse?

            And if so where?

            Pirate
            the country. This year, at least 25 people with albinism have been killed, mostly in the Lake Victoria Zone, especially the Mwanza, Shinyanga
            The bodies are left limbless and sometimes with a huge hole in the neck, from where blood would have been drained. Families not only grieve because of the loss of their loved ones but are also shocked at the state in which the bodies are left by these murderers.

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            • Jeff Leahy
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Mar 2008
              • 3740

              #96
              sounds like you have a possible MO match for the torso murders..

              But not Jack the Ripper

              Pirate

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              • glyn
                Inactive
                • Jun 2011
                • 41

                #97
                Just my little joke .

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                • Jeff Leahy
                  Assistant Commissioner
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 3740

                  #98
                  Thats OK Glyn

                  Patricia Cornwall also expressed a large number of potencial JtR victims and kills...

                  What I'm waiting for from Lynn is something I can take past my 'profile experts' as possible JtR MO matches....

                  Just because I've not come across them doesnt mean, as Lynn points out, they dont exist........

                  Ada Wilson and Annie Milwood are interesting points in hand..

                  Pirate

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                  • Trevor Marriott
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 9449

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Pirate Jack View Post
                    Thats OK Glyn

                    Patricia Cornwall also expressed a large number of potencial JtR victims and kills...

                    What I'm waiting for from Lynn is something I can take past my 'profile experts' as possible JtR MO matches....

                    Just because I've not come across them doesnt mean, as Lynn points out, they dont exist........

                    Ada Wilson and Annie Milwood are interesting points in hand..

                    Pirate
                    Save yourself some time bypass the profile experts you might get the same results if you go and talk to the blind man with one leg who sits outside the Ten bells he will be just as much help.

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                    • Jeff Leahy
                      Assistant Commissioner
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 3740

                      #100
                      Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
                      Save yourself some time bypass the profile experts you might get the same results if you go and talk to the blind man with one leg who sits outside the Ten bells he will be just as much help.
                      Ok Trevor? Strangly I thought the expert analysis in your program was one of the best parts

                      Were they wrong?

                      I have some contact numbers if it helps?

                      Pirate
                      Last edited by Jeff Leahy; 06-21-2011, 12:51 AM.

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                      • Trevor Marriott
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 9449

                        #101
                        Originally posted by Pirate Jack View Post
                        Ok Trevor? Strangly I thought the expert analysis in your program was one of the best parts

                        Were they wrong?

                        I have some contact numbers if it helps?

                        Pirate
                        Medical experts yes,

                        criminal profilers, criminal psycologists "NO"

                        Dont need any phone number now, job done, points proved, onwards and upwards bigger fish to fry now

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                        • lynn cates
                          Commisioner
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 13841

                          #102
                          MO

                          Hello Jeff.

                          "What I'm waiting for from Lynn is something I can take past my 'profile experts' as possible JtR MO matches...."

                          Umm? Well, based on Dr. Bond's purported 5, could you explain precisely what that MO is?

                          But if you, like me, dismiss Dr. Bond's conjecture, can we even talk of an MO?

                          Cheers.
                          LC

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                          • lynn cates
                            Commisioner
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 13841

                            #103
                            amen

                            Hello Trevor.

                            "onwards and upwards bigger fish to fry now"

                            Absolutely! And let us all know when the bloody tribunal decides something, will you?

                            Cheers.
                            LC

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                            • Jeff Leahy
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 3740

                              #104
                              Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                              Hello Jeff.

                              "What I'm waiting for from Lynn is something I can take past my 'profile experts' as possible JtR MO matches...."

                              Umm? Well, based on Dr. Bond's purported 5, could you explain precisely what that MO is?

                              But if you, like me, dismiss Dr. Bond's conjecture, can we even talk of an MO?

                              Cheers.
                              LC
                              I can quote the bond report almost from memory if that helps?

                              Pirate

                              PS and having some knowledge of what those files contain...I wouldnt hold your breath...but of course I'm as interested of the exact contents as you are..

                              PS PS can you provide your MJK look alikes now?

                              Ps PS PS you mean the MacNaughten five I presume?
                              Last edited by Jeff Leahy; 06-21-2011, 01:09 AM.

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                              • Jeff Leahy
                                Assistant Commissioner
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 3740

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
                                Medical experts yes,

                                criminal profilers, criminal psycologists "NO"

                                Dont need any phone number now, job done, points proved, onwards and upwards bigger fish to fry now
                                Yes I prefer Medical experts like Dr Lars Davidson...

                                Pirate

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