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  • #31
    At least three of the victims had handkerchiefs tied around their necks. The killer could have used the ends of those to pull extremely tightly.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Rosella View Post
      At least three of the victims had handkerchiefs tied around their necks. The killer could have used the ends of those to pull extremely tightly.
      A handkerchief is rather small, isn't it?
      I mean the knot doesn't have much left to grab hold of, not like a scarf.
      Aggravatingly, Stride's scarf is also described as a handkerchief, yet I thought they were entirely different in both size & length.
      Regards, Jon S.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
        A handkerchief is rather small, isn't it?
        I mean the knot doesn't have much left to grab hold of, not like a scarf.
        Aggravatingly, Stride's scarf is also described as a handkerchief, yet I thought they were entirely different in both size & length.
        A woman's kerchief is highly unlikely to be wide or long enough to strangle a victim, a lot of women's kerchiefs were silk, a silk kerchief is a very delicate material, despite the inherent strength of silk thread when it is spun by the silk worm.

        A men's kerchief however is larger and wider and would be easier to incapacitate a victim.

        Regards
        Mr Holmes

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        • #34
          A lot of poor women wore men's attire, boots for instance. I'm not talking about some delicate lacy affair in handkerchiefs. These were large, colourful, wide and scarf-like, costers' wear.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Rosella View Post
            A lot of poor women wore men's attire, boots for instance. I'm not talking about some delicate lacy affair in handkerchiefs. These were large, colourful, wide and scarf-like, costers' wear.
            Thank you for increasing my knowledge of the clothes worn by women in those days. wearing men's attire is still done by women these days, but it isn't quite as common, that I can see at see at least.

            Regards
            Mr Holmes

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            • #36
              How about her bonnet?

              Thanks for the drawings WICKERMaN. A new possibility!
              Last edited by Robert St Devil; 10-15-2015, 06:21 PM.
              there,s nothing new, only the unexplored

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              • #37
                question

                Hello Colin. Thanks.

                Oh, dear. I seem to have missed your question. So sorry.

                The answer lies in a combination of unspilled cachous and eventual body position.

                Cheers.
                LC

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes View Post
                  A woman's kerchief is highly unlikely to be wide or long enough to strangle a victim, a lot of women's kerchiefs were silk, a silk kerchief is a very delicate material, despite the inherent strength of silk thread when it is spun by the silk worm.
                  Silk is very strong when you pull it tight and twist it, it would be a very efficient garrott, not that I think this was the tool used, just agreeing it would be adequate, rather like nylon.
                  A bootlace would be just as lethal and innocent when carried in your pocket.
                  Last edited by Wickerman; 10-16-2015, 01:29 PM.
                  Regards, Jon S.

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                  • #39
                    These women wore fairly high and stiffened collars on their dresses/jackets, (in the fashion of the day) as well as, in some cases, a large kerchief over the top with a knot (and ends at the back) tied, coster-style with a triangle at the front. Rather a lot for a bootlace to cover, though I agree, in a man with strong hands and wrists it would be lethal. Nevertheless, wouldn't it be just easier for Jack to grasp the ends of the kerchief and quickly pull, especially if he was standing or walking behind the woman.

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                    • #40
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muVjiP8r8Lg
                      My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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                      • #41
                        Love 'Dad's Army'! Showing my age, of course.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Rosella View Post
                          Love 'Dad's Army'! Showing my age, of course.
                          Aye, those were the days when you didn't have to swear to be funny.
                          Regards, Jon S.

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