Did The Ripper Remove Organs?

[Patrick Differ]

And what was the market for an incomplete uterus as per Eddowes. Dr Brown said that the organs were worthless.

Dr Brown also said that with reference to the actual killer and not anyone associated with Golden Lane Mortuary. No one from Golden Lane appeared at the inquest. If there was a market for organs then I doubt it was mortuaries because in 1888 there were very few in London and none in Whitechapel.

Any market would likely be in the medical community and within Parishes where the market would likely be known. London had a serious problem in the 19th Century dealing with death and body removal. 20,000 per year on average. How high was the demand and who supplied it? It wasn't Robert Mann or Hatfield. Golden Lane Mortuary??

[Herlock Sholmes]

I haven’t read all of this yet but I hope to later today.

https://anatomypubs.onlinelibrary.wi....1002/ar.24794

[Herlock Sholmes]

Phillips was reported to have arrived sometime after 5:20pm.

Hi George, Im not doubting you for a second but could you let me know where it says that please.

[GBinOz]

Hi George, Im not doubting you for a second but could you let me know where it says that please.

Hi Herlock,
LLoyd's Weekly News 30 Sep:

https://www.casebook.org/press_reports/lloyds_weekly_news/18880930.html

Search on "At twenty minutes past five".

Edit: I've just noticed that I mistakenly stated 5:20PM when I should have typed 5:20AM. That makes more sense. Humble apologies.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Hi Herlock,
LLoyd's Weekly News 30 Sep:

https://www.casebook.org/press_reports/lloyds_weekly_news/18880930.html

Search on "At twenty minutes past five".

Edit: I've just noticed that I mistakenly stated 5:20PM when I should have typed 5:20AM. That makes more sense. Humble apologies.

Thank you George. When I was working on the timeline last night I did wonder if you had mistaken am for pm? Lost count of the times that I’ve done it.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I just moved these comments her so that the Chapman Timeline thread doesn’t get sidetracked.

Me - “Calling Jerry Dunlop or Neil Bell or anyone else…Does anyone know who PC 376H was? He was left on guard at the mortuary after Chandler had left. (meaning of course that no one could have stolen any organs.”

Trevor - “Au contraire-Mon ami - You just can't help yourself can you

If the mortuary attendant was corrupt it would have been easy for him to allow an organ thief wearing a white coat or apron to accompany him to enter the mortuary. The police officer was there to keep the press and members of the public out not those who were entitled to access the mortuary.

We know the mortuary wasn't closed for normal business as the body was stripped and washed by nurses, after being found on a ambulance outside as to how long it had been left outside we dont know but perhaps long enough for the organs to be removed“


Me - Except that we know that organ thieves would, as a necessary practice, always remove organs after a post mortem had been performed. So why in this case (and later for Eddowes) would they change? They had absolutely no need to risk being found out by using your ‘disguise’ method in broad daylight. PC Barnes was given the key so would have known who had gone in and out so, a) those inside couldn’t have known if he or a colleague..or a Doctor, might have arrived and gone gone inside at any time and caught them in the act, and b) what if at some point a senior officer had asked him (in the presence of the person in charge of the mortuary) “and no one has been in the mortuary?” And he replies “only two mortuary workers.” The man in charge then says “two?”

The problem is Trevor that your theory has been disproven but you are just defending it at all costs (something that is sadly to prevalent in ripperology these days) A theory becomes almost a religious belief which the originator feels insulted that people don’t accept it. I asked the opinion of people who all had many years of studying this case. All have judgment and common sense. Not one accepts your theory Trevor. Not because, as you usually claim, that they are somehow attached to an ‘official version,’ as if they are somehow defensive of the ripper’s ‘performance,’ either. That claim has long ago worn thin because you use it every single time someone disagrees with you. You never once stop to consider that you may be wrong. Well you are wrong Trevor. The theory has been thoroughly refuted.