How realistic was it for JTR to disguise himself as a PC?

[Leanne]

Jack was not performing a Panto. His murders were done in a short space of time as possible with little to spare. And we don't know what kind of money Jack had. He could have been a pauper. Considering he was about between 12.30AM and 0.530AM he obviously felt safe enough to know he would get seen by those he knew and he turned out to be right.

I know he wasn't performing a Panto, but he wanted to would have wanted to hide his identity as much as possible and confuse eyewitnesses. It wouldn't take much to dress-down (if he had money) and if he was a pauper who somehow acquired (stole / found) a nice hat, a nice coat), he would have been 'safer'. He would have been able to make the prostitutes feel safer and like they were onto a good thing.

[Sam Flynn]

If he used disguises, then he probably had a selection of clothes. If he had a selection of clothes, then it's likely that he had a wardrobe. If he had a wardrobe, then it's likely that he had a place he could call his own. If he had his own place, then why didn't he lure the victims onto his own premises, instead of killing them on the open streets?

[Busy Beaver]

If he was a wealthy man, why wouldn't he have dressed-down when visiting Whitechapel to protect himself from eyewitness sightings, and if he was a local why wouldn't he have disguised himself with a coat, a moustache, an upmarket hat to pull down over his made-up eyes?

Why is everyone expecting him to look like himself during his reign of terror? He may have been very well known to Mary Kelly, but in disguise. Mary was drunk.

Jack was not performing a Panto. His murders were done in a short space of time as possible with little to spare. And we don't know what kind of money Jack had. He could have been a pauper. Considering he was about between 12.30AM and 0.530AM he obviously felt safe enough to know he would get seen by those he knew and he turned out to be right.

[Leanne]

I still think that Jack may have changed hats during the murders, but I'm not sure about a complete change of clothing.

If he was a wealthy man, why wouldn't he have dressed-down when visiting Whitechapel to protect himself from eyewitness sightings, and if he was a local why wouldn't he have disguised himself with a coat, a moustache, an upmarket hat to pull down over his made-up eyes?

Why is everyone expecting him to look like himself during his reign of terror? He may have been very well known to Mary Kelly, but in disguise. Mary was drunk.

[Wickerman]

"Ha!...jus' like that...."

[Robert]

The answer at last?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHJg380qvU

[Sam Flynn]

I'm sure I read one report that said Leather Apron wore a double peaked deerstalker

I bet he didn't know which way to turn

[Joshua Rogan]

Interesting, but I might make two observations:

1. That statement doesn't mean he switched hats in a short timescale; it could simply mean (e.g.) that he wore different hats on alternate days of the week.

2. Changing a hat isn't the same as changing one's entire getup nor, in the cases of "Schwartz-man" vs "Lawende-man", one's build and moustache

True enough!

On the subject of hats, I'm sure I read one report that said Leather Apron wore a double peaked deerstalker, but can't find it now.

[Sam Flynn]

There is some evidence for this;

Pall Mall Gazette 11 Sept
"When this man [Piser] was apprehended Detective Inspector Thicke took possession of five sharp long-bladed knives - which, however, are used by men in Pizer's trade (that of boot finisher) - and also several old hats. With reference to the latter, several women who stated they were acquainted with the prisoner, alleged he had been in the habit of wearing different hats."

Interesting, but I might make two observations:

1. That statement doesn't mean he switched hats in a short timescale; it could simply mean (e.g.) that he wore different hats on alternate days of the week.

2. Changing a hat isn't the same as changing one's entire getup nor, in the cases of "Schwartz-man" vs "Lawende-man", one's build and moustache

[Joshua Rogan]

I still think that Jack may have changed hats during the murders, but I'm not sure about a complete change of clothing.

There is some evidence for this;

Pall Mall Gazette 11 Sept
"When this man [Piser] was apprehended Detective Inspector Thicke took possession of five sharp long-bladed knives - which, however, are used by men in Pizer's trade (that of boot finisher) - and also several old hats. With reference to the latter, several women who stated they were acquainted with the prisoner, alleged he had been in the habit of wearing different hats."

[Busy Beaver]

So JTR dressed up in one uniform for the Stride murder and then donned another one for Eddowes?

Is this an example of a helpful post; should I emulate this?

I still think that Jack may have changed hats during the murders, but I'm not sure about a complete change of clothing.

[APerno]

So JTR dressed up in one uniform for the Stride murder and then donned another one for Eddowes?

Is this an example of a helpful post; should I emulate this?

[Busy Beaver]

The Ripper. then probably didn't dress or act like a Policeman, but depending on what was going on in his head, he either made it his business to know where Policemen would be whilst he was out on the prowl so he did not get caught or he wasn't too fussed and was thinking "If I get caught, I get caught".

[drstrange169]

Whoops, apologizes for the spelling mistakes!

[drstrange169]

>>Same way anyone knows anything about this subject by reading about it; your using the classic cliche Ripper rebuttal, you know damn well that anything Ripper can be challenged and that nothing can be proven. <<

You made a statement, I asked a question, you avoided answering it, which is , I guess, in itself the answer.

There is not a shred of evidence that Mrs Stride had a pimp, so why state it is a fact?.


>>-- But with that said, it doesn't matter if he was her pimp or boy friend, or long lost brother, what does matter, and what was my point, despite your attempt to distract from it, is that no serial killer looks a possible witness in the face and then still takes the risk of killing that victim.<<

Assuming that Schwartz story was accurate, which at least one newspaper cast doubt on. Assuming that the "Broad shoulders" man was the killer, which the police reports cast doubt on. Your claim falls triply apart with, Lawende, Levy and Harris, not mention Long and Hutchinson or Best and Gardener, how about Packer, and of course PC's Andrews and Smith?

In fact, if someone wanted to start speculating, they might say that committing murders after being seen by witnesses was jtr's modus operani. But where does all this get us?

Speculation is fine if you clearly state it as such. But this feild is cursed with people that "know". Your post #1 one was fine. Your post number #15 was unhelpful.