I Shant Quit Ripping

[Scorpio]

I believe that one of the most important factors in validating suspects lies in providing an adequate explanation for the abrupt cessation of violence and correctly identifying post homicide behaviour. In my studies, only one serial murderer i have encountered, a man named Edmund Emille Kemper, consciously chose to stop killing and surrender themselves. Only one JtR supect bears any relation to Kempers example, and he is William Bury. A far more common cause for such drastic change is compulsion from some outside agency, rather than a reactionary stand against your own aimlessly destructve behaviour, a la Kemper. How many suspects do we know from reliable sources were compelled to stop ?. I suggest these suspects go to the top of the list, and my own numero uno would have to be Kosminski. What do you think?, have i read it all wrong ?, was Jack an assassin who could professionally objectify his victims and stop when he felt the job was done?.
Yours, Scorpio.

[Abby Normal]

I believe that one of the most important factors in validating suspects lies in providing an adequate explanation for the abrupt cessation of violence and correctly identifying post homicide behaviour. In my studies, only one serial murderer i have encountered, a man named Edmund Emille Kemper, consciously chose to stop killing and surrender themselves. Only one JtR supect bears any relation to Kempers example, and he is William Bury. A far more common cause for such drastic change is compulsion from some outside agency, rather than a reactionary stand against your own aimlessly destructve behaviour, a la Kemper. How many suspects do we know from reliable sources were compelled to stop ?. I suggest these suspects go to the top of the list, and my own numero uno would have to be Kosminski. What do you think?, have i read it all wrong ?, was Jack an assassin who could professionally objectify his victims and stop when he felt the job was done?.
Yours, Scorpio.

Hi Scorpio

a man named Edmund Emille Kemper, consciously chose to stop killing and surrender themselves.

He's the only one i have heard doing this also.

Only one JtR supect bears any relation to Kempers example, and he is William Bury.

he is the closest, but he still tried to lie to the police about his wife's death before confessing.

A far more common cause for such drastic change is compulsion from some outside agency How many suspects do we know from reliable sources were compelled to stop ?

Why just jailed or in an asylum? Would not moving away or dying have the same result (i.e. the murders ending)?

I suggest these suspects go to the top of the list, and my own numero uno would have to be Kosminski.

What "outside agency" compelled him to stop?

was Jack an assassin who could professionally objectify his victims and stop when he felt the job was done?.

Probably not-moving away, dying(or getting so sick he was unable), or being jailed/in an asylum are probably the only reasons he would stop IMHO.

[Tom_Wescott]

America's most prolific serial killer, Gary 'Green River' Ridgway stopped killing, as did BTK, as most likely did Zodiac and a slew of others. I would say more serial killers stop than get caught.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Scorpio]

Hi Scorpio

a man named Edmund Emille Kemper, consciously chose to stop killing and surrender themselves.

He's the only one i have heard doing this also.

Only one JtR supect bears any relation to Kempers example, and he is William Bury.

he is the closest, but he still tried to lie to the police about his wife's death before confessing.

A far more common cause for such drastic change is compulsion from some outside agency How many suspects do we know from reliable sources were compelled to stop ?

Why just jailed or in an asylum? Would not moving away or dying have the same result (i.e. the murders ending)?

I suggest these suspects go to the top of the list, and my own numero uno would have to be Kosminski.

What "outside agency" compelled him to stop?

was Jack an assassin who could professionally objectify his victims and stop when he felt the job was done?.

Probably not-moving away, dying(or getting so sick he was unable), or being jailed/in an asylum are probably the only reasons he would stop IMHO.

Hi, i am not saying that all serial killers are compelled to stop, but it is a more likely reason to stop than my stated alternative. The outside agency that i believe may have compelled Kosminski to stop, if he was the killer, was the City of London CID, who had placed him under surveillance according to Anderson. Kosminki was a aware of the action taken against him and could hardly carry on attacking prostitutes under these circumstances. The purpose of my thread was to suggest an effective way of validating suspects, and validation of the circumstantial kind from official sources actively involved in the investigation seems more valuable to me than dying, or moving away at an opportune moment . People died with monotonous regularity in the abyss and the population was, and still is, highly transient compared with other areas of Britain.
Scorpio

[The Good Michael]

Scorpio,

Kosminski's family may have been watching him as well.

Mike

[Chava]

As Tom Wescott said, a lot of serial killers stop before they are caught. He's listed the best-known ones. That having been said, the escalation of violence makes me think he would have killed at least a couple more if he could have. I'm one who believes he probably died or was permanently incapacitated one way or another shortly after the MJK killing. He might have gone to gaol for something unrelated. He might have had a work accident. He might have caught an infection or a virus and died. At this time in this place the mortality rate among young men was probably quite high. There were no workplace safety rules in existence and asepsis was a fairly new concept. Chances were taken while loading on the docks. Porters carried too much too far and hurt their backs permanently. Butchers in abattoirs worked in fairly grim conditions at low light and ran the risk of giving themselves nasty cuts that could turn into very nasty wounds...

[Scorpio]

Perhaps there was something particular about Kelly's death that provided the motivation. This has been the foundation of some suspects inclusion i believe.
Is it possible do you think that JtR was simply a mentally unstable dunce, and the killing of strangers provided an outlet for some unarticulated frustration.
This is why alot of prostitutes get killed i imagine.
Scorpio.