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  • #46
    Exactly as you say, Don (Supe)!
    Supe wrote:
    And lacking post mortem reports, as opposed to lurid newspaper reports, it is rather difficult to assess the wounds themselves.

    Precisely.
    Best regards,
    Maria

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    • #47
      Hi Lynn,

      Murder by Cut Throat, 1888

      January–Lucy Clark, Marylebone
      February–Hannah Potzdaner, Whitechapel
      February–Annie Bond, Aldershot
      February–Louisa Booth, Nottingham
      March–Annie Vaughan, Aldershot
      July–Mrs Sergeant, Wakes Colne
      October–Sarah Brown, Westminster

      All seven murders can be classed as 'domestic', their perpetrators caught and sentenced.

      SOURCE: The Times 1888

      Regards,

      Simon
      Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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      • #48
        thanks

        Hello Simon. Thanks for that. What astonishes me is that some throat cuttings were self inflicted. Good grief!

        Cheers.
        LC

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
          All seven murders can be classed as 'domestic', their perpetrators caught and sentenced.
          I should have thought that said it all, Lynn.

          Colin's figures for the whole of England in 1888, for adult women being murdered by cut throat, would appear to include the seven solved domestic cases Simon listed.

          In 1887, there were nine cases, in 1889 there were six, but in 1888 there were fifteen. (When Colin included women murdered by stabbing - eg Tabram - he got eleven in 1887, eleven again in 1889 and seventeen in 1888.)

          So on top of Simon's seven, we have the five unsolved Whitechapel throat cutting murders of Nichols, Chapman, Stride, Eddowes and Kelly - plus just three other murders of this basic type (somewhere in England) to make up Colin's grand total for the year of fifteen (ie six more than in 1887 and nine more than in 1889.

          Any self inflicted or non-fatal or non-adult female throat cuttings need not apply for comparison here. I'm being generous by allowing solved domestic cases into the mix.

          And that's before we start comparing actual wounds and methodology.

          I don't think anyone is promoting the notion that mere throat cuttings were 'a rare exception'. But it's a fact that unsolved throat cutting murders of adult females were so rare in the whole of England that in 1888 the five Whitechapel examples stick out like very sore thumbs in the figures.

          The notion you are trying to promote is the frankly eccentric one that these examples were nothing special, in a sea of similar throat cuttings, whether they be in London, Colchester or elsewhere in England. You still have your work cut out to make a fact out of that notion.

          Love,

          Caz
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          Last edited by caz; 09-07-2010, 04:41 PM.
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          • #50
            Out of interest has anyone done any drawings or 3D renders of the throat cuts in C1-C4, would be interesting to see? Jane Coram, I'm looking in your direction lol.

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            • #51
              Hello Garza,


              Look on Dave's(protohistorians) thread "Ripper Anatomy class", where you will find some drawings of that kind by Jane Coram.
              Washington Irving:

              "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

              Stratford-on-Avon

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              • #52
                Originally posted by corey123 View Post
                Hello Garza,


                Look on Dave's(protohistorians) thread "Ripper Anatomy class", where you will find some drawings of that kind by Jane Coram.

                Cheers corey, much appreciated!! Enjoyed your article in the examiner btw, very informing.

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                • #53
                  Thanks for the kind words Garza, happy holidays!
                  Washington Irving:

                  "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                  Stratford-on-Avon

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