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Jack with profiling.
Garry,
Thank you for that, it was highly interesting and informative.
yours truly
Garry,
Thank you for that, it was highly interesting and informative.
yours truly
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Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Jack a narcassistic
It seems very plausable that Jack the Ripper could indeed be a severe narcasssistic. It fits perfectly.
The way he slaughtered those women and didnt feel any remorse.
The exploitation of the victims.
His charm and verbal skills that most likely helped lure in his victims.
I could go on and on but it all fits.Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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You're most welcome, Corey.
Best wishes.
Garry Wroe.Comment
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"..., this unusually confined criminal range is indicative of disorganization, implying in context of latter-day profiling techniques an immobile offender who travelled to and from each crime scene on foot."Originally posted by Garry Wroe View Post
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I had always thought that a small geographical profile indicated a disorganised killer,
and an organised killers geographicle profile would be much much larger and hard to connect, spanning miles.
Maybe he is saying that this very small confined profile was due to his mobility option, walking.
yours trulyWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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I find it amazing that questions like...."what was the killer thinking".....are even being asked with the hopes that an answer thats posted might somehow provide some clarity in the investigations.
There is no evidence in any murder that is studied regarding the Ripper to allow for any knowledege of:
Who he was, From Where, Who he killed, or Why he killed.
Looking to "open" the mind of the killer should start with a known single killer....(there is evidence in some Canonical murders that 2 or more people may have been involved)....a known and agreed upon list of crimes,...(we dont have that), ....a known range....(we dont know that the less than square mile was the only placed he could have killed in London, just that it was the only place he seems to have killed...), and something about his life or family...to assess the roots of any psychosis he might have had, something we also dont have.
It would seem the only way you could possibly be able to try and understand the mind of someone is by having access to that mind or the actions or activities that the mind in question performed.
This notion comes from studying serial killers in the modern ear to evaluate the causes for their violence.....what people seem to forget is that you need a subject in hand to even begin to study anything. Jack the Ripper is a pen name and an Unsub...no-one knows anything about him.
So all we can know about Jacks mind is that guilt, remorse, compassion or morality seemingly were not concepts that he embraced.
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Mike,
you tend to shy away from anything that says serial killer in this case.
We can get a grasp at what the mind of this serial killer thought with the various tools we have to us.
The victimology, the geographic profile, the methodolgy. these all can tell us a bit about the killer and you , who thinks there is no serial killer WOULD think that you wouldnt be able to get a grasp. And we do have subjects to compare with.
Look at all the suspects we have in this case. They may not be the man who killed those women but we can study THEIR mindsets and compare them to various killers. You think we need the KILLER to know what he could possibally do next or what he could have been like and your incorrect.
Thanks for your info anywaysWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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That's precisely as I interpret the evidence, Corey. Furthermore, there were plenty of other nearby districts where he could have found "unfortunates" on the streets, yet he still sticks to this narrow orbit.Originally posted by corey123 View Post
Putting potentially contentious talk about geographical profiling algorithms to one side, and focusing only on the logistics and logic, all this suggests strongly to me that, not only was he walking, but also that he almost certainly lived in the "North Whitechapel" / Spitalfields area.Kind regards, Sam Flynn
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Sam,
I agree.
The killer had all of london to pick from, but he only choose women from this relatively small area.
If it had been more than one killer why did they all kill so close together??
Like I have said before the East end must have been spitting out alot of Lust murderers in 1888.
yours trulyWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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A deduction based on a personal assessment of the data, and something that is completely unknown to this day and remains unproven, and without confirmation in any murder evidence physical or circumstantial.Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
For example, The apron section in that entranceway means the killer put it there....not automatically that he was on a path home......although I see broader conclusions are made with even less corroborative evidence.
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Really Mike? No evidence? How about the geographic profile???? Enough evidence for me to say he was local, unless you suppose he took regular trips down to whitechapel to rip off women???Originally posted by perrymason View Post
Jesus help us.Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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A 15 minute walk in any direction from the single square mile would have been more than adequate. That the killer was local is again...a theory...an opinion...a guess....speculative,...unconfirmed, unproven....how many ways does this need to be said?Originally posted by corey123 View Post
Opinions are not facts no matter how much you personally might agree with them....they need to be evaluated, and in this case, there is no proof that their "guess" was correct.
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Well Mike I would say the same about alot you pull out, the scarf, the Knife,. All opinions but this one is based on evidence which you refuse to see, the profile.
yours trulyWashington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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Are you seriously debating whether a scarf suddenly being tightened around your neck and pulled on would cause choking?Originally posted by corey123 View Post
Truly?
If you cant even acknowledge a simple fact of physiology corey, then how am I to take anything you stand behind seriously?
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mike,
I see that the scarf was pulled, but we dont know how tight.
Just because they said it was pulled tight doesnt mean it choked her to death, and if it did why did she show no signs of strangulation???
Please tell me that?Washington Irving:
"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "
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