What would JtR do after Kelly?

[kensei]

Then again there is always the theory that with the privacy of being indoors, the fire burning for warmth, and the sexual nature of the Ripper's crimes, he may have disrobed on this occasion, or at the very least taken his shirt off. That would have taken care of the problem of bloodstained clothes.

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He went home or to his bolthole but I think home. Somewhere IMO around Liverpool St Station. He then lost it. How could you remain sane after that?

Then he killed himself, he left the country or he was incarcerated in a hospital, psycho ward or jail.

JMT.

[Mike Covell]

Had a quick smoke of his briar root pipe, went to his bolthole on Leman-street, then hopped over the London Hospital gates, back to his ward in time for Breakfast!!

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Had a quick smoke of his briar root pipe, went to his bolthole on Leman-street, then hopped over the London Hospital gates, back to his ward in time for Breakfast!!

Mike, he didn't kill in his home area. He could have been recognised.
He didn't live in the area but he knew it very well. Liverpool St is so close. He'd be on a train and out of there. 2, 3 4 stops and he'd be home. Then he'd have to deal with what he'd done.

London Hosp is tempting, it really is. But I'm sure they kept records.

Hold on, you say, this 1888. They didn't log in and log out every patient.

Well, probably not. But it's reasonable to think some staff and patients would have noticed and said something? JMT.

[Mike Covell]

it was an in-joke to Robert D'Onston Stephenson!

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it was an in-joke to Robert D'Onston Stephenson!

Now come on. Here I am being all serious and ...Share. Please.

[kensei]

Well, in the spirit of humor then, how about an in-joke about Druitt rushing out of Miller's Court just in time to make a game of cricket?

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Well, in the spirit of humor then, how about an in-joke about Druitt rushing out of Miller's Court just in time to make a game of cricket?

It's OK Kensei. Mike and I are cool.

But the inning's of cricket for Druitt? Much as he has always been such a terrific candidate for Jack, wasn't he playing somewhere that would have made it impossible for him to be killing in London and playing county cricket?

For a couple of the murders? If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will tell me.

[Grim]

Well, in the spirit of humor then, how about an in-joke about Druitt rushing out of Miller's Court just in time to make a game of cricket?

I've long suspected cricketers to be nothing more than barbaric homicidal thugs. So to suspect that Druitt was indeed JTR wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Mascara & Paranoia]

Druitt? Much as he has always been such a terrific candidate for Jack.

Because he topped himself after the Ripper murders or thereabouts? Yeah, that's an excellent argument for his candidacy as a suspect. He's as unlikely as Tumblety and Sickert and to think of them as possibly being Jack is a joke (no offence intended with my bluntness).

[Grim]

Because he topped himself after the Ripper murders or thereabouts? Yeah, that's an excellent argument for his candidacy as a suspect. He's as unlikely as Tumblety and Sickert and to think of them as possibly being Jack is a joke (no offence intended with my bluntness).

Yeah I mean seriously who would consider Tumbelty a suspect? I mean the guy ONLY collected wombs in jars. Everybody did that back in those days didn't they?

[Mascara & Paranoia]

That's a myth. Where's the evidence to solidify that story?

[perrymason]

That's a myth. Where's the evidence to solidify that story?

Technically it isnt a myth...its a story that was discreditted based on the source that provided it...but the man who provided it seemed to know Dr T. Tumblety was also mentioned in the Littlechild reply to G.R. Sims. He is not a modern era suspect at all...he was held on suspicion and he was within some of the contemporary investigators thoughts.

Since Pollys and Annies Inquests revealed the medical opinion that the killer sought to perform the mutilations and organ thefts which necessitated the killings themselves, meaning that organ extraction may have been his goal in those cases...and you have a story regarding 2 Teaching Hospitals being approached in late 1887 by an American "doctor" to see about acquiring uteri specimens to accompany research being sent to America...which only one denies when asked directly about the story...you have plenty of circumstantial reasons to keep this man in the Suspect Pool.

It would appear that Druitts candidacy drowns in that same pool, because he is only in it apparently based on some speculative gossip to figures of authority..even if by his family members, and an unproven theory that the man who kills Mary Jane went mad and would likely end his life soon thereafter. He leaves a suicide note with no confessions other than he thought he would end up like his Mother. Since the Ripper crimes were all in the past when he writes that, "would" becomes a revealing word perhaps.

Best regards all.

Tumblety is a very viable suspect even if he is a behind the scenes patron.

[Ben]

Hi Mike,

and you have a story regarding 2 Teaching Hospitals being approached in late 1887 by an American "doctor" to see about acquiring uteri specimens to accompany research being sent to America

It wasn't a "doctor" in inverted commas, but a genuine doctor of very high repute according to the British Medical Journal. Certainly not Tumblety. As circumstatial evidence for Tumblety's complicity in these crimes are concenered, the "teaching hospitals" detail doesn't apply in the slightest, I'm afraid.

Best regards,
Ben

[Grim]

It wasn't a "doctor" in inverted commas, but a genuine doctor

So you are saying Tumbelty wasn't a genuine doctor? What gave you that absurd idea?