facial mutilations

[BLUE WIZZARD]

And he removed Mary's face from his memory.

BW

[c.d.]

Hi Wizzard,

But what about Kate's face? If Barnett killed Mary and her alone how do you account for Kate's face being horribly mutilated?

c.d.

[Roy Corduroy]

...he killed Eddowes and removed her nose. Isn't it that in the advance stages of syphliss your nose falls off and he saw the women as syphilitic degenerates?

Hi Baron, welcome to the discussion. I've thought syphilis played some part in the murders. That's a new twist how you put it and I will ponder that.

Again, welcome,
Roy

[Jon Guy]

Density of knife activity per square inch is orders of magnitude greater.
Respectfully Dave

Why did Jimi Hendrix start burning and smashing up his guitars on stage ?

[protohistorian]

Why did Jimi Hendrix start burning and smashing up his guitars on stage ?

Because they were expendable. Fender gave them to him.

[protohistorian]

Hi Wizzard,

But what about Kate's face? If Barnett killed Mary and her alone how do you account for Kate's face being horribly mutilated?

c.d.

The behavior is not restricted to a singular person. Modern studies show it in widespread distribution. The need for behavior justification would be and in fact is common.

[protohistorian]

Why did Jimi Hendrix start burning and smashing up his guitars on stage ?

And lets not forget enthiogenic deleriunm.

[c.d.]

And lets not forget enthiogenic deleriunm.

Oh yeah, I love that song.

c.d.

[Jon Guy]

And lets not forget enthiogenic deleriunm.

Good answer Dave, but the truth is simple and practical :

He could afford to, the money was starting to roll in, and guitar companies were giving them to him for free.

[protohistorian]

Good answer Dave, but the truth is simple and practical :

He could afford to, the money was starting to roll in, and guitar companies were giving them to him for free.

scroll down brother I said that.

[BLUE WIZZARD]

C.D.,

YOU SAID:
But what about Kate's face? If Barnett killed Mary and her alone how do you account for Kate's face being horribly mutilated?

If I did not know better, I would think that you were asking a trick question.

Please tell me that you were kidding.

BW

[Sam Flynn]

Isn't it that in the advance stages of syphliss your nose falls off

True.

and he saw the women as syphilitic degenerates?

It's more likely that he simply cut off the tip of her nose, Baron. As it was, he slashed many other parts of her face also, so it's unlikely that he was making a point of saying "this is a syphilitic whore". If he'd intended any such symbolism he'd have likely lopped off the noses of his other victims as well, but he didn't.

[Blues]

Huh?

Never heard of syphilis causing the "nose" to fall off...maybe is some strange case it was a predominant symptom...but as a matter of course? I, personally, don't think it is...but I don't even play a doctor for pretendzies.

Anyway, I always thought that Jack cut CE's and MJK's faces out of anger. Catherine Eddowes face, I believe (have to start putting that all the time because when I don't, my opinion comes across like I'm stating fact), was cut because of the circumstances of her killing. Jack got pissed when the fecal matter (where does "foecal" come from anyway?) got on him and he had trouble cutting through...Mary Jane was a notoriously sharp tongued drunk...after the singing was over, I think she smarted off to Jack...or she fought back - either way, it drew his wrath.

His earlier kills were easier...there wasn't as much of a struggle and/or problems with the "operation".

Just my imagination.

Blues

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Blues,

Never heard of syphilis causing the "nose" to fall off.

Tertiary syphilis can give rise to ulcers which eat away at the nose - and other parts of the body... it's just that the damage is more noticeable when it's on the face. Prior to the 19th Century, a prosthetic nose made of metal would sometimes have been used to hide the disfigurement. Dr Pangloss, in Voltaire's Candide, famously lost his nose to syphilis, and covered the hole with an artificial schnoz made of tin.

[DarkPassenger]

I've had a bit of a brainstorm.

Which victim was it, who said she knew who the Ripper was? Because obviously, she didn't - or else she wouldn't have gone with him that night.