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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    Pierre

    that is not necessarily so, it is your view, which i have no problem with at all.

    So it was a pure coincidence that he chose him then?

    steve
    Arnold wasnīt certain he could ID him.

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    If Arnold had known the man he would

    1) have told the press and the police who he was. But the man would not have wanted that so he could not have known Arnold.

    or

    2) not have contacted them at all. And since this was what the man wanted him to do he could not have known him.

    Regards, Pierre
    Pierre

    that is not necessarily so, it is your view, which i have no problem with at all.

    So it was a pure coincidence that he chose him then?


    steve

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    Pierre

    So you hypothesis that they have been living within a few hundred yards, at most of each other, for a reasonable amount of time, yet did not know each other by sight?
    If he did not know Arnold, why did he approach him?
    Or is it pure coincidence that they were also living close to each other?

    regards

    Steve
    If Arnold had known the man he would

    1) have told the press and the police who the man was. But the man would not have wanted that so he could not have known Arnold.

    or

    2) not have contacted them at all. And since this was what the man wanted him to do he could not have known him.

    Regards, Pierre

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  • jerryd
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    Pierre

    So you hypothesis that they have been living within a few hundred yards, at most of each other, for a reasonable amount of time, yet did not know each other by sight?
    If he did not know Arnold, why did he approach him?
    Or is it pure coincidence that they were also living close to each other?

    regards

    Steve
    Donald Swanson stated that John Arnold was well-known to the police. Plus he worked at the Charing Cross post office selling newspapers. There must have been police walking by him on a daily basis.

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    Because Arnold and the police officer did not know each other.

    Regards, Pierre

    Pierre

    So you hypothesis that they have been living within a few hundred yards, at most of each other, for a reasonable amount of time, yet did not know each other by sight?
    If he did not know Arnold, why did he approach him?
    Or is it pure coincidence that they were also living close to each other?

    regards

    Steve

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  • Elamarna
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    I see you have not yet given a reason why you consider king william street convent for the man.

    Steve

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  • jerryd
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    Hi Jerry,

    No, I donīt. Statistics is naturally not always relevant. Historical methods are.

    And you can forget the thing about "source information from people". I prefer primary sources.

    And the last sentence, forget it. It is wrong.

    Regards, Pierre
    Ok, "Historical methods".

    I think I'm spot on, Pierre.

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    Yes, there were indeed some furnished rooms to let for gentlemen in King William Street in 1888.

    Regards, Pierre
    your source for this, considering I gave you mine.

    The point of interest is not rooms to let, but "rooms to let for gentlemen" The word "gentlemen" having a specific use in 1888



    Steve
    Last edited by Elamarna; 06-09-2016, 11:26 AM.

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    I think Pierre honestly thinks his statistical, source analysis approach is the only way to solve the case. He gathers source information from people on this site and forms a hypothetical based on his approach. He is making this up as he goes along. He may have had a base "type" of suspect to begin with, which is a policeman.
    Hi Jerry,

    No, I donīt. Statistics is naturally not always relevant. Historical methods are.

    And you can forget the thing about "source information from people". I prefer primary sources.

    And the last sentence, forget it. It is wrong.

    Regards, Pierre

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    No its a good 15 minute walk, Why approach him there when Arnold lived next door to King William Street.

    Steve
    Because Arnold and the police officer did not know each other.

    Regards, Pierre

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    Pierre

    Of course would not be searching for a particular person, just looking to see if for both periods 81 and 91 there appeared to be a degree of letting.
    A while it is true it is not 88, if letting was taking place in both periods it would seem probable that such also took place in 88.
    letting in only one period would not rule such out, but the probability would be lower.

    I would expect there to be some degree of letting, it could equally involve the two properties which are either fully or partially referred to as Dwelling..

    Steve
    Yes, there were indeed some furnished rooms to let for gentlemen in King William Street in 1888.

    Regards, Pierre

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  • Elamarna
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    Originally posted by jerryd View Post
    It's not really that close to the King Lud where John Arnold supposedly met his informant, either.
    No its a good 15 minute walk, Why approach him there when Arnold lived next door to King William Street.

    Steve

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  • jerryd
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    I think Pierre honestly thinks his statistical, source analysis approach is the only way to solve the case. He gathers source information from people on this site and forms a hypothetical based on his approach. He is making this up as he goes along. He may have had a base "type" of suspect to begin with, which is a policeman.
    Last edited by jerryd; 06-09-2016, 10:44 AM.

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  • jerryd
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    Originally posted by David Orsam View Post
    What is it that makes you say that Pierre? I mean, it's not far from Trafalgar Square or Whitehall or Scotland Yard or many theatres. What is it about the location which makes you think it is particularly close to the RCJ?
    It's not really that close to the King Lud where John Arnold supposedly met his informant, either.

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    It is not far from the Royal Courts of Justice.
    What is it that makes you say that Pierre? I mean, it's not far from Trafalgar Square or Whitehall or Scotland Yard or many theatres. What is it about the location which makes you think it is particularly close to the RCJ?

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