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jerryd: Thanks for the reply,
I have to disagree that Lechmere would pick that spot. The fact that spot in that vault was chosen was no coincidence in my opinion. Someone familiar with that basement was involved, which, by the way, could be someone other than Wildbore. Several news reports indicate there was suspicion on the workmen because of where the body was found. I would go as far to say (without proof) that some of these men were watched by the police. And maybe watched for a long period of time, due to the fact Elizabeth Jackson wasn't dismembered until June of 1889.
I cannot say that Lechmere would have picked the spot. Nor can I say that he would not have. These matters are not within our reach to fully understand.
I can see the logic behind your suggestion that much points to someone who worked on the premises. But I think the suggestion works a lot better when we look at the Whitehall deed in isolation. Once we accept what Hebbert said about the connection between the 1887, 1888 and 1889 deeds, the perspective changes.
Let´s say that the killer was one of the construction workers at the building site, and let´s call him, say, Frederick Wildbore.
Why would he put a torso in the place where he worked - and one torso only? Why did he otherwise dump the parts in places that had no comparable connection at all to himself, as far as we can tell? What was he doing in Pinchin Street?
The idea that Wildbore was so hot on getting attention that he even "found" the Whitehall torso when his comrades failed to do so, seems very odd to me.
To me, having proposed Lechmere for a number of years, you may perhaps see how I find the Pinchin Street connection much more alluring than the idea of a construction worker who placed one torso on the tips of his own shoes and then steered clear of any coupling to himself both before and after.
What would have been Lechmere's working hours? Would they coincide with the working hours of the men at the worksite? 6 a.m to 5 p.m roughly.
We have it on record that he started work at 4 AM on the day he ki... sorry, "found" Nichols.
And he would have worked long days, stretching numerous hours into the afternoon.
And if Lechmere wasn't hauling around bodies with his cart during working hours, did he have another cart at home to haul bodies around when he didn't have his work cart? Again, genuine questions.
With no answers, I´m afraid. Lechmere was by no means a poor man. He amassed money enough to start a shop of his own, and he left a fair bit behind when he died. His mother was a resourceful woman, it would seem. She was working as a horse flesh dealer in 1891, quite possibly having access to transport for that flesh - meaning that there may have been a possibility for Lechmere to use that transport too. He may of course have helped out in that line of business too - and we don´t know when it started out.
There is absolutely no way that we can rule out that he had the means to transport body parts around London, I´m afraid. If he had been dirt poor and if he had no known connections in the transport business, I would have been more inclined to agree that he seemed unlikely to have transported the torso to Whitehall.
But even in such a case, I would still have thought that there WAS a solution, meaning that Lechmere was the culprit. It fits that way, much, much better than any other way I´ve seen suggested.
Call me a fanatic if you wish (not that I think you DO wish to do that, but here´s being humble...), but I have so far seen no reason at all to wawer about Lechmere.
I have to disagree that Lechmere would pick that spot. The fact that spot in that vault was chosen was no coincidence in my opinion. Someone familiar with that basement was involved, which, by the way, could be someone other than Wildbore. Several news reports indicate there was suspicion on the workmen because of where the body was found. I would go as far to say (without proof) that some of these men were watched by the police. And maybe watched for a long period of time, due to the fact Elizabeth Jackson wasn't dismembered until June of 1889.
I cannot say that Lechmere would have picked the spot. Nor can I say that he would not have. These matters are not within our reach to fully understand.
I can see the logic behind your suggestion that much points to someone who worked on the premises. But I think the suggestion works a lot better when we look at the Whitehall deed in isolation. Once we accept what Hebbert said about the connection between the 1887, 1888 and 1889 deeds, the perspective changes.
Let´s say that the killer was one of the construction workers at the building site, and let´s call him, say, Frederick Wildbore.
Why would he put a torso in the place where he worked - and one torso only? Why did he otherwise dump the parts in places that had no comparable connection at all to himself, as far as we can tell? What was he doing in Pinchin Street?
The idea that Wildbore was so hot on getting attention that he even "found" the Whitehall torso when his comrades failed to do so, seems very odd to me.
To me, having proposed Lechmere for a number of years, you may perhaps see how I find the Pinchin Street connection much more alluring than the idea of a construction worker who placed one torso on the tips of his own shoes and then steered clear of any coupling to himself both before and after.
What would have been Lechmere's working hours? Would they coincide with the working hours of the men at the worksite? 6 a.m to 5 p.m roughly.
We have it on record that he started work at 4 AM on the day he ki... sorry, "found" Nichols.
And he would have worked long days, stretching numerous hours into the afternoon.And if Lechmere wasn't hauling around bodies with his cart during working hours, did he have another cart at home to haul bodies around when he didn't have his work cart? Again, genuine questions.
With no answers, I´m afraid. Lechmere was by no means a poor man. He amassed money enough to start a shop of his own, and he left a fair bit behind when he died. His mother was a resourceful woman, it would seem. She was working as a horse flesh dealer in 1891, quite possibly having access to transport for that flesh - meaning that there may have been a possibility for Lechmere to use that transport too. He may of course have helped out in that line of business too - and we don´t know when it started out.
There is absolutely no way that we can rule out that he had the means to transport body parts around London, I´m afraid. If he had been dirt poor and if he had no known connections in the transport business, I would have been more inclined to agree that he seemed unlikely to have transported the torso to Whitehall.
But even in such a case, I would still have thought that there WAS a solution, meaning that Lechmere was the culprit. It fits that way, much, much better than any other way I´ve seen suggested.
Call me a fanatic if you wish (not that I think you DO wish to do that, but here´s being humble...), but I have so far seen no reason at all to wawer about Lechmere.
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