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...and yet people continue to respond to his posts all the while complaining as they do so.
Not everyone can be as perfect as you c.d. I think of your contribution to the Maybrick Diary thread the other day: "Is it just me or does it seem like some people have way too much free time on their hands?" A classic and much loved internet forum post which everyone loves to see repeated as much as possible.
For your information, the basic complaint in this thread is that there has been no GSG xmas present as promised in the title. I don't know how it's possible to complain about that without posting in the thread.
If the Admins had any problem with Pierre's antics, they would've nipped this in the bud ages ago. From the moment he posted here it was an obvious wind-up. There are a lot of threads on here with untapped potential that fall by the wayside but Pierre's nonsense captures everyone's attention. If no one took the bait and refused to entertain this nonsense, he would do what most trolls do and move on. It's only because he gets a reaction out of people that he keeps up this charade.
If the Admins had any problem with Pierre's antics, they would've nipped this in the bud ages ago. From the moment he posted here it was an obvious wind-up. There are a lot of threads on here with untapped potential that fall by the wayside but Pierre's nonsense captures everyone's attention. If no one took the bait and refused to entertain this nonsense, he would do what most trolls do and move on. It's only because he gets a reaction out of people that he keeps up this charade.
Perhaps his objective is to get forum members to attack and criticise other forum members about how to respond to him.
I really do not understand why people get so hot under the collar over our dear friend Pierre. Ok if he attacks you as an individual I do.
There are two approaches, ignore him which NO ONE does for long. And he will not go away I am sure of that.what ever his reasons, he is not a pure windup merchant.
The other alternative is to treat him seriously and expose the failings in the arguments he makes.
That is the approach I have generally taken as have several others.
If others do not want to partake in the debates with Pierre it's really very simple. DON'T.
I have my own views on Pierre and his motivations, which while not total negative, that he is not just a troll, Are certainly far from positive. I believe he has not been 100% open about some issues and I don’t just mean the refusal to namend a suspect.
I really do not understand why people get so hot under the collar over our dear friend Pierre. Ok if he attacks you as an individual I do.
There are two approaches, ignore him which NO ONE does for long. And he will not go away I am sure of that.what ever his reasons, he is not a pure windup merchant.
The other alternative is to treat him seriously and expose the failings in the arguments he makes.
That is the approach I have generally taken as have several others.
If others do not want to partake in the debates with Pierre it's really very simple. DON'T.
I have my own views on Pierre and his motivations, which while not total negative, that he is not just a troll, Are certainly far from positive. I believe he has not been 100% open about some issues and I dont just mean the refusal to namend a suspect.
Hope all had a good xmas day (including Pierre).
Steve
Hi Steve,
and thanks.
I am struggling very hard right now to try and disprove my hypotheses. I can tell you it is certainly hopeless. If you research any person, anyone at all, and try to disprove that he was the Whitechapel killer, you must get at least some small data source that shows he could not have done the murders.
I am sure that whoever you research, somewhere you have to find at least some data, at least one single source, which you can use to disprove your hypothesis.
The problem is that I have been trying to find such a source, but they donīt exist. Instead I tend to get just another confirming source.
I'm afraid that Pierre just interprets sources in a way that's consistent with his own fantastical theory. For instance, to conclude that the GSG contains the word "judges" is just plain silly. In fact, there's not even enough evidence to conclude that the GSG was written by either Stride's or Eddowes' killer.
Meanwhile, further to the Alice in Wonderland theory, what about the Princess Alice link, Pierre? Surely that must mean something if you apply your own "anything goes" approach to this problem.
Pierre's in even bigger trouble that I thought if he doesn't know how to prove his hypothesis.
I'm reminded of his very first post in this forum (17 Sept 2015) in which he said:
"I'm planning to go on with the research and I know what data I need to prove who the killer was. There is only some very sparse data I need for this and it is probably not impossible to find."
Perhaps he didn't know what data he needed to prove who the killer was after all.
It's a little known fact that I provide a service to members of the forum by defining simple English words, with the help of the Oxford English Dictionary.
Prove, v."To establish as true; to make certain; to demonstrate the truth of by evidence or argument."
Pierre's in even bigger trouble that I thought if he doesn't know how to prove his hypothesis.
I'm reminded of his very first post in this forum (17 Sept 2015) in which he said:
"I'm planning to go on with the research and I know what data I need to prove who the killer was. There is only some very sparse data I need for this and it is probably not impossible to find."
Perhaps he didn't know what data he needed to prove who the killer was after all.
Or perhaps, just perhaps mind you, it's as I've said all along....HE is making BS up as he goes along.
G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
Steve, sir, that's all well and good, but let's be honest: you can take him at his word and try to falsify his hypotheses as often as you like, I feel he's content to play this game for as long as he wants. It's been a year and a quarter without a single testable proposition or source so far.
Your approach sounds eminently sensible, and a year ago maybe it was. The question is, how long are you prepared to waste your time on this guy's untestable evasive rubbish?
How long, Steve? At what point would you say enough is enough, he will never share his suspect or his sources?
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