The GSG. What Does It Mean??

[Sam Flynn]

"We won't take any $hit" would translate, in the context of the apron, to "We won't take any $hit despite the fact that we're responsible for that $hit".

Was there a missing " " there, Ben?

[Sam Flynn]

And that,daddio...is why its possible that the message is in incomplete form,as if in someone spooked the writer during the writing..

It's complete enough as I read it, How. There's a game on the BBC Radio4 comedy quiz show I'm Sorry I haven't a Clue called "Cheddar Gorge". The object of the game is for each of the four panellists to say one word at a time with the object of not completing the sentence. If the chairman/referee (sadly no longer with us) spots a natural end-word, he honks his horn and the round is lost. The panellists get around this by adding clauses like "and", "but" and "however" to keep the sentence going. All's I can say is that, in Cheddar Gorge terms, the GSG definitely needs a "however" at the end of it - 'coz otherwise, it's self-contained.

our interpretation,as is my interpretation of what it should mean or state doesn't take into account we're not crazy.

If that were the case then I don't know who's crazier - Jack for writing it, or thee and me for even trying to make sense of it

[Ben]

Hi Gareth,

If the message conveyed the impression I suggested, then our non-Jewish killer probably had the last "" if it was interpreted as Jew-boasting and Jew-authored. Luckily, it wasn't for the most part.

But that's all moot if Jack didn't write it, innit?

Best,

Ben

[DrB]

Gsg

The GSG could mean anything and only means something to the person who at that time and in that mind state wrote it - so its nigh impossible to interpret - personally I think it unlikely written by the ripper for a number of reasons - no other messages were chalked on walls or even scribed in blood near victims - he could have had a chalk fest in mary kelly's room !, why travel 1/2 a mile and write a message , it would have to have been in the "plan" - so you would have been carrying chalk with you or you just happen to have some in your pocket!! Why in an obscure stairwell?? I think he was on his way home and stopped in the building ? shelter / rest , he wiped his hands and knife and threw the apron - I don't for one second think he thought it would be found and I doubt he would have cared. The message left was in the autopsy reports and the mutilations, dissections and organ removal process not on the wall

[The Good Michael]

DrB,

Just because JTR didn't write it, doesn't mean it isn't his message. Look at all the quotes we site members have attached to our messages and you'll see what I mean.

Cheers,

Mike

[Mitch Rowe]

--------------I-Am-Jack-------------

I think DrB is right. The message was said to have been written in a good schoolboys hand. Wasnt it somewhat lower as if a boy may have written it? It would explain the double negative and the misspelling of the word Jews.

At any rate.. We cant be sure if JTR wrote it. But we can be sure of what JTR did to at least some of the bodies. Also what he didnt do is important. If Jack killed Stride then he made some hasty decisions. Wich opens himself up more for examination. Even if Jack didnt kill Stride then I would say he was acting abnormally while killing Eddowes. Maybe that night is the key? I dont know. Maybe the key lies in all the murders? Or just one? One this is for sure. That guy left part of himself at every crime he committed. Interpreting Jacks mind is about all we have left. But the World has only scratched the surface of Profiling. These Cases in general may be the key to unlocking the next level of Profiling. Wich in turn may serve to identify Jack.

We will never know unless we try!

[DrB]

Dear Mike,
It would stretch my imagination to the limit to think the ripper had written the message in the first place, to think that someone else wrote the message and was quoting one of the rippers local sayings or catch phrases or messages or whatever it means is imagination break point.

DrB

[The Good Michael]

It would stretch my imagination to the limit to think the ripper had written the message in the first place, to think that someone else wrote the message and was quoting one of the rippers local sayings or catch phrases or messages or whatever it means is imagination break point.

No. I only suggest that it was the Ripper's message because it meant something to him, and not that anyone wrote it for him.

Mike

[Glenn Lauritz Andersson]

I have never uderstood the argument 'he could very well have done it because it meant something to him, we just don't know his frame of mind'.

With such reasoning one can state anything, no matter how absurd it is.

I could state that a graffitto found on a murder scene saying 'Donald Duck was here' must have been written by the killer because even though it doesn't relate to the murder at all, 'it may have meant something to him'.

It is ludicrous.

All the best

[The Good Michael]

Glenn,

I hope you aren't referring to my post when you say it's ludicrous. If so, you'd better read it again and see that I said that it may have meant something to JTR, but that he didn't write it. After that, I will await your apology.

Cheers,

Mike

[Glenn Lauritz Andersson]

No, Roy, It was just me being unclear - I wasn't speficially referring to your post, but to others in the past who have used this argument for why the Ripper could have written it. This has been done many times and it is an argument that annoys me tremendously.
Sorry about the confusion - I knew you didn't mean that and I should have been clearer in which direction my post was aimed.

All the best

[joelhall]

whoever wrote it had a good study of english literature

[Monty]

A side issue...

I was walking down Wilkes Street late yesterday afternoon and, on a wall at the junction with Puma Court, was chalked graffiti.

Reading it, it was obvious a child wrote it, and I managed to get a pic on my phone just before my battery went.

Even after all these years, chalked writing remains.

Monty

[Mitch Rowe]

Yes.. it dont make any sense that a child would write "The Juwes are the men That Will not be Blamed for nothing".

It had to have been a young Man or Man.
It was so inflamitory it had to be erased. It was described as recent.

Heres a question..

How many "Jewish" doorways could the Ripper have passed on his way from Eddowes to Goulston St?

What I mean is. If the Ripper wanted to associate the apron with Jews could he have done it sooner?

[Sam Flynn]

Heres a question..

How many "Jewish" doorways could the Ripper have passed on his way from Eddowes to Goulston St?

What I mean is. If the Ripper wanted to associate the apron with Jews could he have done it sooner?

Good question, Mitch. The answer is, "yes, he could have".

Judging by the 1881 census, Middlesex Street (running almost parallel and to the West of Goulston) had a high Jewish population, as did nearby Hutchinson Street (where Joseph Levy lived), Ellison Street and Gravel Lane. All four thoroughfares lay between Mitre Square and Goulston Street, and one or other of them were likely traversed by the Ripper during his escape.